RE: FW: WinXP SP1, Outlook 2000, and ISA

Hi Ed,

That dealspree site is great! A 1600SC for under six hundred dollars!

Thanks!
Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:09 AM
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Casey, call my setup ridiculous, but then keep in mind that we have not
had one email- borne virus touch our network in over two years.

Dell was running a special on a 1650 for $500 bucks that would run IIS
SMTP just fine. They also had another for $270 that would work. I
disagree with your real world analogy (in gentleman fashion) - there are
benefits to doing it the right way the first time. The benefits to a
secure email architecture are gained regardless of the size of your
organization, and at minimal cost.

For the longest time I had a piece of junk clone box as our screener,
and while I worried about it a lot, it worked until I could get a real
server to replace it. Check www.dealspree.com for excellent deals and
coupons for Dell equipment and servers.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Friese, Casey <cfriese@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue Feb 25 08:20:05 2003
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Rich,

In our world there's 2 ways of doing things, The Microsoft way or the
real world way.  Not everyone can afford to go out and by the required
resources and to be honest, I think it's a rediculous idea to buy 2
servers to support one function - email - especially in your size
environment.

Honestly,  If plausible, just bring your Exchange server to an inside
DMZ or internally altogether and use ISA's server publishing rules.
This still isn't the idea soultion but it's far more secure than your
current setup.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: rbell@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rbell@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:13 AM
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That was my first thought on doing the setup.  But after going to a
Microsoft run Exchange 2000 class they wanted it either with the server
in the DMZ or a "front end" exchange server in the DMZ and a "back end"
exchange server on the internal net.  Couldn't get the funding for a
front end so ran this way.

The secondary trouble is due again to funding I am also running two
websites, and a DNS server on the same server.  Nothing really large and
I have under 50 users on the exchange server.  Never had a problem until
this one with SP1.

Look like it may be time to hit the books again and see what else can be
done on a larger scale.

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:50 AM
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I would strongly recommend you move your exchange server inside to your
10.x network, then use smtp and owa publishing for external connections.
This makes your network more secure, and will more than likely solve
your connectivity issues. Exchange 2000 uses AD heavily, and seperating
it from your main network will complicate things. (assuming you have
exchange 2000)

-----Original Message-----
From: Friese, Casey <cfriese@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue Feb 25 07:41:06 2003
Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: WinXP SP1, Outlook 2000, and ISA

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Is there no local network between the ISA and the Exchange Server?
Example..using your numbers, here's how my design is: All my XP SP1
Clients work fine.

Intranet (10.0.x.x)
   |
ISA Server (10.0.x.x) South
           (10.112.x.x)Local DMZ ------ Exchange Server (10.112.x.x)
             (66.43.x.x) North
   |
Cisco Router (66.43.x.x)
   |
Internet

-----Original Message-----
From: rbell@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rbell@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:24 AM
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okay here goes... working from a LAT setup.
I have an internal network and W2K server that is the DHCP/DNS for
internal net. All clients are running the ISA firewall client. Out in
the DMZ are the web servers and the Exchange server. 

Intranet (10.0.x.x) DC runs DHCP and DNS servers
        |
ISA server      (10.0.x.x) south
                (66.43.x.x) north

        |
Exchange server (66.43.x.x) also DNS server
        |
Cisco router (66.43.x.x)
        |
Internet

On all the other (non-SP1) outlook setups (outlook 2000) I create an
exchange account in Outlook and connect without problem. On the SP1
units or units that have had SP1 installed I am denied access. On the
systems that I can remove SP1 from all works great as soon as it is off
the system. FTP is also denied on these systems, but like exchange some
back after SP1 is removed. the real trouble is the units that have SP1
integrated into the WinXP OS installation CD.


Rich



-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:36 PM
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Hi Richard,

You say the Exchange Server is in a DMZ. What kind of DMZ? Are the
clients trying to connection from a LAT or non-LAT network?

Thanks!
Tom


Thomas W Shinder 
www.isaserver.org/shinder 
-----Original Message-----
From: rbell@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rbell@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:53 AM
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I have several W2K, and WinXP stations running Outlook with a live
connection to an Exchange server in the DMZ.  All was fine until I
installed WinXP SP1.  After installation of SP1 I can not longer connect
to the exchange server or even use FTP.  I can however surf the web.  I
am running the ISA firewall client on all stations.  This appears to be
a WinXP SP1 issue as on the stations that I can remove SP1 from the
connections return. However I have new stations that have WinXP with SP1
integrated.  Is there a setting that after SP1 needs to be changed in
the ISA server that I didn't need before SP1?



Richard Bell 
MIS Director 
Microfilm Services, Inc. 
www.msifla.net 
rbell@xxxxxxxxxx 

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