http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Got to be careful with these types. He said you could bill, he didn't say anything about paying it. :\ Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > (Hammer of God) > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:58 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Wow. Just, wow. ;) > > Hey, if the guy is asking you to say, what can you say? I'd > have a really > hard time billing for that (as I'm sure you are now) but if > he demands it, > then there is not a lot you can do. > > Enjoy the trip! > > t > > > On 6/28/06 5:50 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" > <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh > to all: > > > The user is a "turn it on, do what I normally do, it must > work". If not, 'Yell > > and Scream', louder and louder till someone fixes it, type user. > > > > The RPC/over/HTTP, whilst very easy and fairly simple, > would have required him > > making a change to the outlook setup on his notebook, and > with this user, it > > was just not an option, there just no way to get him to do it. > > > > So I won a trip away for a couple of nights. > > > > His Demaned I stay here in Melbourne, at his companies > expense, on my hourly > > rate, till Saturday Morning, in case it stops working > again, and he can't get > > his e-mail ! > > > > The wife said "Where do we find more users like this bozzo, > maybe we can get > > some more trips away ? > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Lists > > Sent: Wed 28/Jun/2006 14:31 > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > > > > > > What about Tom's earlier suggestion if he only needs his > e-mail to use Outlook > > 2003 with RPC/HTTP and eliminate the VPN? Very > easily/nicely setup with SBS > > 2003. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:18 PM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the > ISA server > > > > > > Plan is, I am going to take; > > > > 1. > > A linksys 4 port BB router, to plug in between the hotels > BB, and his > > notebook, which I think will do the trick nicely. > > 2. > > A wireless broadband card, just in case. > > 3. > > A second notebook with the companys SOE on it, also just in case. > > 4. > > My Wife, it will be a nice little day or two away for us. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thor (Hammer of God) > > Sent: Wed 28/Jun/2006 14:06 > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > You gonna add a new IP to the server, bring a little NAT > router, or both? ;) > > > > t > > > > > > On 6/27/06 9:00 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" > <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh > > to all: > > > >> I don't believe it. > >> > >> I've just been offered a return first class plane ticket, a nights > >> accomodation, 2 nights if need be, all expenses + how ever > many hours it > >> takes > >> at my normal hourly rate to go see the director in person > and fix this for > >> him > >> so he can get his e-mail ! > >> > >> "Well I'll loose a whole day on this", "Fine, then charge > us for every hour > >> your away, just get it fixed !" > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thor > (Hammer of God) > >> Sent: Wed 28/Jun/2006 13:45 > >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.ISAserver.org > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> OWA would be a great "backup" solution in the rare case > where the local > >> Ethernet LAN is the same logical subnet as their own > offices, even if he > >> couldn't sync. But, in your case of having a jackass for > a client, you're > >> kind of stuck. > >> > >> An easier thing to do would be to get a little Linksys NAT > router to stick > >> in between. Plug the hotel ethernet to the "Internet" > port, and plug the > >> laptop into a "LAN" port. That way he'll get a local > 192.168.1 address and > >> have no problems. Plus, there is no configuration needed > at all. The > >> defaults will work just fine. Just plug it in and go. > >> > >> t > >> > >> > >> On 6/27/06 8:29 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" > <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh > >> to all: > >> > >>> I'm told he refuses to use OWA as he can't sync his mail > with the OST on his > >>> notebook. There is just no helping some people, no matter > how hard you try > >>> to > >>> be helpful and solve their problem, they just refuse all > help on principle ! > >>> > >>> Also they passed on to me, that in his yelling and > screaming his demanding > >>> to > >>> know 'Why someone did not realise this would happen, and > get it fixed before > >>> hand, so I can get my e-mail" > >>> > >>> I really feel sorry for the IT guy at the site, his early > 20's, finished a > >>> development oriented IT degree last year, is quite bright > really, but is > >>> still > >>> just learning the finer points of the winserver > environment, supporting XP > >>> etc, and it working toward his MCSE, having passed the > first 2 exams in the > >>> last couple of months. He reports to this Director, and > from what I can see, > >>> gets one hell of a serve from him as soon as anything a > little bit odd > >>> occurs. > >>> > >>> I can't see a away around this, without the Director > having to do something > >>> out of the ordinary, which apparently, is just not an > option, and have just > >>> told them that. > >>> > >>> I've suggested the only possibly way, I can see, is to go > out and purchase a > >>> wireless broadband card from someone local, get it on the > net, set up a > >>> notebook with it and his e-mail, and get it express > couriered to him. He'd > >>> have it early eveing or first thing in the morning. > >>> > >>> There was a chocking sound on the other end of the phone, > "but then he'd > >>> have > >>> to carry 2 notebooks back ! " and "What do I do if he > gets it and it does > >>> not > >>> work ?" .................................. > >>> > >>> Find another job came to mind.. > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thor > (Hammer of God) > >>> Sent: Wed 28/Jun/2006 12:49 > >>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Well, it would have worked other than the gw on the hotel > being the same as > >>> the SBS box... Bad luck there. But, I've had to do this > several times for > >>> the exact same scenario with my people. Seems the > Marriott and I thought > >>> alike in our IP schemes ;) > >>> > >>> You could always just add another IP address to the SBS > box (well, you could > >>> if it were a "regular" server install-- I don't know what > you'd have to go > >>> through on SBS to do that.) That would work, though. > >>> > >>> Not much we can do about a guy who wants to scream more > than get the job > >>> done, though. I'd tell him that if he wanted his email > to STFU and do what > >>> was needed. It's not like it is anyone's "fault." There > are other options > >>> you have, but they would all require him doing *something*. > >>> > >>> I'm assuming that OWA is not an option for some reason? > >>> > >>> t > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/27/06 7:37 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" > <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh > >>> to all: > >>> > >>>> The internal IP of the SBS server is 192.168.110.2, G/W > on the hotel BB > >>>> service is also 192.168.110.2 unfortunately ! > >>>> > >>>> I tried the static route on my home ADSL service by > changing the internal > >>>> private IP to match the Hotel's to play with, and > everything else works, I > >>>> can > >>>> get to the internet and other clients networks fine, but > I can not get to > >>>> anything on the remote network after the tunnel is > connected, of the client > >>>> with the problem. > >>>> > >>>> Putting the static route in I doubt will work anyway, > the fellow will > >>>> probably > >>>> just yell and scream as soon as he is asked to do > anything remotely > >>>> technical, > >>>> expecting it to be magically fixed from this end. > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thor > (Hammer of God) > >>>> Sent: Wed 28/Jun/2006 12:27 > >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Error establishing a VPN to the ISA server > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> All he has to do is set a static route for the SBS box's > IP to the gateway > >>>> address of the VPN endpoint. > >>>> > >>>> IOW, if the SBS box is 192.168.110.101, and his PPP VPN > interface got > >>>> assigned something like 192.168.110.11 from the RRAS > server (do an IP > >>>> config > >>>> to see what ip his PPP adapter is, or look at the RRAS > properties of the > >>>> connection) then you would have him do a: > >>>> > >>>> ROUTE -p add 192.168.110.101 mask 255.255.255.255 192.168.110.11 > >>>> > >>>> That way, when he attempts to access the SBS server, the > request will route > >>>> down the VPN rather than broadcasting on the "local" > 192.168.110.x network. > >>>> > >>>> t > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 6/27/06 7:13 PM, "Glenn P. JOHNSTON" > <glenn.johnston@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >>>> spoketh > >>>> to all: > >>>> > >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe, maybe not directly and ISA question, and I've > posted this in an SBS > >>>>> forum as well, but you people are pretty bright & I > thought you might have > >>>>> some worth while input on this. > >>>>> > >>>>> One of my clients has an issue with VPN tunnel. This > has been inplace > >>>>> since > >>>>> Sunday afternoon, but they only rang me this morning. > >>>>> > >>>>> One of their directors is at a week long conference, > and the Hotel where > >>>>> he > >>>>> is > >>>>> staying, has provides an in room broadband service. > >>>>> The BroadBand in the hotel is using a 192.168.110.0/24 > address range, the > >>>>> internal address of the clients network at the office is also a > >>>>> 192.168.110.0/24 range. > >>>>> > >>>>> The VPN tunnel establishes fine, and the VPN connector > on his notebook > >>>>> get > >>>>> an > >>>>> address, of course, in the 192.168.110.100 to > 192.168.110.199 range of the > >>>>> DHCP server on the SBS server. > >>>>> > >>>>> Once the tunnel is established, he can acess nothing on > the SBS. This is > >>>>> to > >>>>> be > >>>>> expected as the address ranges are the same, does > anyone have any bright > >>>>> idea's on how to get around this. The Director is > yelling and screaming > >>>>> about > >>>>> not being able to get his e-mail. > >>>>> > >>>>> Unfortunately he is out out direct reach in another > state, and has very > >>>>> little > >>>>> tolerance for such problems. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> Glenn > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> List Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/isalist/ > >>>>> ISA Server Newsletter: > http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > >>>>> ISA Server Articles and Tutorials: > >>>>> http://www.isaserver.org/articles_tutorials/ > >>>>> ISA Server Blogs: http://blogs.isaserver.org/ > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > >>>>> http://www.techgenix.com > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> To unsubscribe visit http://www.isaserver.org/pages/isalist.asp > >>>>> Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> > >>>>> > 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