[isalist] Re: Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:59:08 -0700

This is stupid; four single-port NICs are no more "redundant" than two
dual-port NICs.

If they're that anal, it's time to scale their server out.

 

From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:02 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

 

HP Field service has swapped the 4 single port Nic's for 2 dual port
ones. 1 fibre, 1 gigabit. Some 3rd level support guy put an entry in the
call log, that this is a know issue, and to replace with dual port
nic's. I'm trying to get more details on exactly what the issue is.

 

Removed to old nic's from the teaming, added the new dual port ones to
the teaming, rebooted, everythings working fine. all 4 nic's are
connected and traffic is flowing on all 4 links. Quite happily fails
over to the other link when 1 is unplugged, and will switch back and
forth.

 

Now the client is not happy, they see this as 2 single nic's and that
they have lost redundancy, and they now have 2 single points of failure,
which is probably partially true.

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2006 21:37
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

If it is working when cords are unplugged, it is getting confused about
which route to take, so look at your teaming settings first.

 

I don't have one handy to look at, but I recall there being a few
different ways to set up the teaming.  I had mine set up to use the same
MAC, same IP, but I don't recall what setting I used for load-balancing
(I think it was fail-over).  

 

You also need to set the same style of load-balancing on the device it
is plugged into...

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:04 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

 

NLB is definately disabled.

 

The setup is currently running fine in production with 2 nic's
unplugged, but I have been left with the task of solving the issue.

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Jim Harrison
Sent: Fri 13/Oct/2006 14:37
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
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ISA doesn't know or care about teaming, Q-tagging or any other layer-2
protocols.
Make sure you don't also have NLB enabled, as NLB and teaming is not a
supported combination.

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:45 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Dual Nic'ed HP proliant

http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
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Hi,

Currently working on a brand new server, it a new HP proliant, quadriple
nic'ed.

It's running W3KR2 with all updates to date applied, domain member, all
HP updates for the HP software applied, nic's have the latest firmware
applied. it's using the HP server nic teaming software. ISA2004
installed with all updates to date applied.

The Internet connection use 2 gigabit nic's teamed to connect to a  56M
frame relay connection via a watchguard firewall (Let's not get into the
watchguard discussion, I have to work with what the company has in
place) , via cat5e cable.

They are 4 separate nic's and not dual ported ones.

The LAN connection uses 2 fibre channel nic's teamed to go to a dual
redundant cisco switch.

Before ISA was installed, teaming was working fine, both the internet
and the lan were accessable.

After installing ISA, neither the internet or the LAN is accessable,
unless 1 of the teamed nic's is unplugged on both sides. i.e. 1 internet
nic unplugged + 1 lan nic unplugged eerything works like a dream.

But plug either or both of the 2 that were unplugged in, and neither the
internet nor the LAN is accessable.

Disable the firewall services, and reboot, everything is fine with all 4
NIC's plugged in.

HP field service have been twice out replaced the nic's, ran diag's and
they are pointing the finger at the ISA server. Saying it's not
compatable with the HP nic teaming software, but can not point out any
documentation to support this. Searching the internet also drew a blank.

The company configured the server using the proliant configurader, so I
am assuming that everything is compatable, and the field service people
responded in the afermative, when asked is everything compatable.

Does anyone have any experience or suggestions on this ??

Glenn
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