RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs

  • From: "Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:03:42 -0800

OK-- I'm with you now... Other than the DSN thing, everything else should be the same. Since you are using Windows Auth (which is good) just make sure you create a logon for the machine names (like MYDOMAIN\ISA1$ and MYDOMAIN\ISA2$) so that the machine authentication will work.

I should warn you, though... The default .sql script that comes with ISA creates a table structure that is not efficient regarding storage space. Be prepared for HUGE databases if you are logging any data of substance. I've actually had to create a whole sub-structure to parse data and post it into my own table design and delete "raw" data after a pre-defined time period.

You might also look at disabling "lock-down" mode, as ISA logging to SQL is not tolerant of logging delays.

t

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bret Hanson" <Bhanson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs



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The Microsoft docs for setting up ISA04 to SQL don't work if you are
running ISA 2004 Enterprise Edition.  If I had more experience using SQL -
maybe this would be a no brainer - but that ain't the case and I wanted to
make sure I wasn't missing something.

Thanks,
Bret

-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:15 PM
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SE servers can also share the same SQL DB, as can any SQL client...  It
just seems that rather than configuring a DSN for the connection, the EE
logging configuration "directly" accesses the SQL box, which seems a bit
surprising, but is obviously the case.

But not withstanding the difference in DSN/direct config, what is the
actual issue here?  What doesn't work?

t

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John T



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs


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Yeh - I got that - ISA 2000 doesn't have a "monitoring" tab.
You're right though; that was for SE, not EE.

Because EE servers can share a single DB, they dropped the DSN mechanism.
What this means is that you can point all your array members to the same
SQL
SB.

Send mail to isadocs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with your comments.

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-----Original Message----- From: Bret Hanson [mailto:Bhanson@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 08:22 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs

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There is no ODBC data source (DSN) box, this is what I get:
http://ftp.yunker.com/isa/isa.jpg

As stated before this is a ISA 2004EE - not an ISA 2000 install.  No
problems finding where to enter ODBC information in the ISA 2000 install.

Thanks,
Bret

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:38 PM
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It's part of the <service> logging properties dialog.
If you:
- Open the ISA manglement cornsoul
- expand <ArrayName>
- select "Monitoring"
- select the "Logging" tab
- in the "Task" pane on the right, click "Configure <service> Logging"

Ta-daa...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bret Hanson [mailto:Bhanson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:06 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs

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That I know.  What is puzzling me is why in Microsoft's documentation
(article 838710) for logging ISA 04 to a SQL 2000 it says to "type the DSN

in the ODBC data source (DSN) box."

There is no such box on my ISA 2004EE install - unless I am just a
dumba--
which is possible.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:41 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs

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ODBC and DSN configurations are part of "Administrative Tools", "Data
Sources".

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http://isatools.org
Read the help / books / articles!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bret Hanson [mailto:Bhanson@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:55 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Confused - ISA 2004 logging to SQL 2000 docs

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We have a ISA 2004EE box on our test network and would like to log to a
SQL
2000 database.  However, Microsoft's article 838710 in the "How to
configure
ISA Server 2004 to log information to an SQL Server database"
section, line six refers to a "ODBC data source (DSN) box."  This box does

not exist in my installation (under Firewall logging > options).  I have
boxes to enter a server, port, database, table, user and password.

Oddly enough, Tom's ISA 2004 book (pg 981) also refers to using ODBC data
sources when configuring ISA to log to a SQL Server.

I have little experience with SQL and databases in general so I may be
just
confusing terminology.  Could someone help clear this up?  Do I even need
to
create a DSN?  Im a bit confused.

Thanks,
Bret

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