http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- That's what I meant when I said "However, the tags are for clients, and not ISA." ;) t > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:40 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > ISA doesn't "see" meta-tags. > The only part of the HTTP traffic that matters for caching are requests > / response headers. > > Craptures of this would be interesting... > > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:21 PM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Well, in these tests, no. We didn't wait more than a day. But it > shouldn't have mattered since caching was disabled in the first place, > and the meta-tags specifically said not to cache. However, the tags > are > for clients, not ISA. > > I hunch is that this is a combination of ISA and IIS7 (on Server 2008). > None of the other sites exhibited this behavior - mine is the only one > running on IIS7/2008. ISA was told not to cache, and it wasn't (as > evident by the CacheDir showing *nothing*). > > But now that caching is enabled in general on ISA, but we're not > caching > internal sites, it's odd that mine *is* still caching - again, given > evidence from CacheDir showing my files in the cache. > > My guess is that for whatever reason, the ISA-IIS7 caching > communication > is slightly left of plum. The site is caching whether caching is > enabled or not, and whether it's told to cache or not (when enabled). > In the case of overall cache being disabled, I couldn't even get to it > to mark it as obsolete, but I can now, so at least we've got a good > place to start troubleshooting when Jim comes up for air. > > t > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Holmes > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:41 AM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I assume because you say no matter how long that you waited longer > than > > 1 day > > correct? I set my web server to enable content expiration and the set > > it to > > expire immediately. No because I think it's a good idea but because > my > > user's > > demand as much concurrency as possible. Setting this has always > flushed > > the > > cache on ISA. I have not tried this with IIS7 so it may have nothing > to > > do > > with it. > > > > I have not had much luck with meta tags be paid attention to. But > again > > that > > might be how I tried to use the tags. I was not sure if ISA was > simply > > ignoring them but it "seemed" like it. > > > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:16 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Default. 1 day. > > > > All pages however, have the meta tag no-cache, therefore the TTL > should > > be > > ignored. > > > > The issue is that no matter how long one waits, the page does not > > refresh > > until the ISA services are restarted. > > > > S > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of William Holmes > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:03 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Hello, > > > > What IS the default TTL set on the IIS server you are publishing? > > > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:34 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I restarted ISA and the updated page displayed. He restarted IIS7 a > few > > times. > > > > Cache was disabled. > > > > His site is the only one that seems to be affected by this. All my > > sites show > > updated pages when they've been edited. As does ISATools. > > > > I have enabled the cache, and his site ain't in it, because it's in > the > > no > > cache rule. (as are mine). > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:23 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I thought Tim said you guys restarted the ISA? > > ..or was that the web server? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:19 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Just to put the cat in amongst the pigeons...cache was disabled. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:59 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I was actually about to suggest that it has something to do with > IIS7, > > 'cos > > all the other sites update fine and do not require a restart of the > > service. > > > > S > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:46 AM > > To: ISA Mailing List > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > FYI - I just made more changes, hit F5, and they immediately > refreshed > > as expected. Must be some IIS7/Win2k8 voodoo. > > > > t > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:10 PM > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I think Steve tried that, but I can't be sure... (restarting the > > > service, that is). > > > > > > t > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:02 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Sorry for hiding - paying customers, yano... > > > > > > > > Actually, all it would have taken is a services restart. > > > > You have to remember that cachedir only sees what's on disk. > > > > If ISA hasn't dumped it to the file, cachedir can't see it. > > > > > > > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms814069.aspx is the > > correct > > > > answer to clearing specific content from the ISA cache. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:21 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > It required a reboot of the server - which ain't good, but it is > > what > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have an idea why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:37 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing listed at all in CacheDir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:10 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try using CacheDir.exe to find the file.Would be interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> > > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > > > MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:48 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > Yes, the new file has the correct date/time stamp. As I > > > said, > > > > it works internally, just not through ISA... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried the Ctrl-F5 trick, and that doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is happened before, and I'm not sure what I did to > fix > > > it > > > > (other than maybe rebooting). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? This is quite strange... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:41 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen this happen where the updated files on the > > > internal > > > > site actually have an older date than the ones they replaced. > The > > > > solution for this is to "touch" the files to update the > > modification > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Mayo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:48 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > OK, we and an un-named Scot can't figga this one out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Typical web publishing rule - everything works fine. > > > However, > > > > if I change content on the internal server, when you view the > site > > > > externally (via ISA) the "old" content is still there like it's > > > cached > > > > or something. Viewing the site internally shows the new content. > > > Even > > > > disabling and re-enabling the rule exhibits the same behavior > > > > (disabling the pub rule prevents access to the site as expected). > > > The > > > > site is exempt from ISA caching rules. The internal server has > > been > > > > rebooted, etc (which you would not have to do, but just letting > you > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF is going on here? 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