http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- OK - it's doing it again right now. Updated the internal site, works internally, but the "old" page is displayed. What exactly are we looking for? t > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:19 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I'll get on it! > > t > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:55 AM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Exactly; which is why restarting ISA service having changed this > > behavior is so interesting. > > I'd still like to see the log entries from your testing time frame > for > > that site. > > Something interesting may well pop up. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:17 AM > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Indeed - no failed requests, no errors, just the "old" page. Even > with > > the internal site shut down (tested both with the site stopped and > the > > web server service stopped) the site still showed up. So, there must > > be > > some issue with IIS7 and ISA caching - even though the site was (and > > still is) part of the non-cache sites. Steve tested caching rules > this > > morning, and they worked (I don't think caching was even enabled). > > > > Jim said something about the "CacheDir" only showing what was on disk > - > > - > > the site has been running for months with no changes at all. If it > was > > being cached by design, it would certainly have shown up by then... > But > > again, caching was off - or it was supposed to be off, anyway. And > the > > meta tags on the site prevent IIS caching... > > > > t > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:42 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No failed request...it was just showing the old page. Obviously it > > was > > > cached somewhere. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:37 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Got ISA logs for the failed requests? > > > The s-cache-info field should help. > > > Otherwise, we'd need a network crapture. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:34 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I restarted ISA and the updated page displayed. He restarted IIS7 a > > few > > > times. > > > > > > Cache was disabled. > > > > > > His site is the only one that seems to be affected by this. All my > > > sites show updated pages when they've been edited. As does > ISATools. > > > > > > I have enabled the cache, and his site ain't in it, because it's in > > the > > > no cache rule. (as are mine). > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:23 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I thought Tim said you guys restarted the ISA? > > > ..or was that the web server? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:19 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Just to put the cat in amongst the pigeons...cache was disabled. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:59 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I was actually about to suggest that it has something to do with > > IIS7, > > > 'cos all the other sites update fine and do not require a restart > of > > > the service. > > > > > > S > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:46 AM > > > To: ISA Mailing List > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > FYI - I just made more changes, hit F5, and they immediately > > refreshed > > > as expected. Must be some IIS7/Win2k8 voodoo. > > > > > > t > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:10 PM > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > I think Steve tried that, but I can't be sure... (restarting the > > > > service, that is). > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:02 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for hiding - paying customers, yano... > > > > > > > > > > Actually, all it would have taken is a services restart. > > > > > You have to remember that cachedir only sees what's on disk. > > > > > If ISA hasn't dumped it to the file, cachedir can't see it. > > > > > > > > > > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms814069.aspx is the > > > correct > > > > > answer to clearing specific content from the ISA cache. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:21 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > It required a reboot of the server - which ain't good, but it > is > > > what > > > > > it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have an idea why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:37 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing listed at all in CacheDir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:10 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try using CacheDir.exe to find the file.Would be interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > > > > Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> > > > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > > > > MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:48 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not > reflecting > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the new file has the correct date/time stamp. As > I > > > > said, > > > > > it works internally, just not through ISA... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried the Ctrl-F5 trick, and that doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is happened before, and I'm not sure what I did to > > fix > > > > it > > > > > (other than maybe rebooting). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any other ideas? This is quite strange... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayo, Bill > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:41 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Changes in web site not > reflecting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen this happen where the updated files on the > > > > internal > > > > > site actually have an older date than the ones they replaced. > > The > > > > > solution for this is to "touch" the files to update the > > > modification > > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Mayo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist- > > > > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God) > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:48 PM > > > > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [isalist] Changes in web site not reflecting > > > > > > > > > > OK, we and an un-named Scot can't figga this one out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Typical web publishing rule - everything works fine. > > > > However, > > > > > if I change content on the internal server, when you view the > > site > > > > > externally (via ISA) the "old" content is still there like it's > > > > cached > > > > > or something. Viewing the site internally shows the new > content. > > > > Even > > > > > disabling and re-enabling the rule exhibits the same behavior > > > > > (disabling the pub rule prevents access to the site as > expected). > > > > The > > > > > site is exempt from ISA caching rules. The internal server > has > > > been > > > > > rebooted, etc (which you would not have to do, but just letting > > you > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTF is going on here? 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