Shinder, Harrison, .... I think it would be nice if the ISA site guru's could look into this issue (perhaps with your MS engineering contacts) and find out what is going on and recommend a best course of action. Currently we are using PCs outside ISA to connect to commerce-sites with this problem. Last time I checked, MS did not have a "download patch" (we had to call them to get it), and they recommended we wait (if possible) for a fix. thx