Very well put Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 09:47 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an Enemy of the State http://www.ISAserver.org I have to agree; hackers are not terrorists. They're a lower form of life. "Hackers" (or sometimes, "crackers") is the generally-accepted term used to define those who, for no reason other than to say "I did it", willingly and with malice aforethought, cause damage to data and property, both private and public. "Terrorists" generally have some political or religious motivating force behind them and usually seek no more recognition than that provided by their peers or their deity of choice. I once called myself a "hacker" until the popular media perverted it into something negative (actually rewrote my Kaypro-4 BIOS to support a real-time clock and a 10MB Shugart SASI drive). There was once a time when being called a "hacker" was one of the higher compliments paid by one's peers. No more. Jim Harrison MCP(2K), A+, Network+, PCG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay J. Mobley" <jmobley@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:43 Subject: [isalist] RE: Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an Enemy of the State http://www.ISAserver.org BOO HISS hackers are not terrorists! -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:30 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Attorney General Ashcroft to Hackers You're an Enemy of the State http://www.ISAserver.org Are you having problems with hackers and script kiddies wasting your precious time? Wondering what useful things you can do with your log files that fill up with port scanners and other more insidious forms of intrusion? If this bill passess, you'll really be able to get back at those guys who are making you miserable. http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=22704 Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jmobley@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: pshalley@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') Disclaimer: This mail was content checked for malicious code or viruses by Mail essentials. Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP is an email security, content checking & anti-virus gateway that removes all types of email-borne threats before they can affect email users. For more information please visit www.gfi.com