RE: Any Updates on the Book ?

  • From: "josephk" <josephk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:10:42 -0700

Bummer dude, all we are is some footnote written on a posit pad! <grin>

-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:27 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Any Updates on the Book ?


http://www.ISAserver.org

And you think your special? He went and published the 2000 ISA and
Beyond book before I gave him the chapter on Site to Site ISA to
Sonicwall.

Oh wait, that is still not working.

;)

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: josephk [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:53 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Any Updates on the Book ?
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> I've not even completed my chapter on SQL yet for Thomas!  How can he 
> publish his book Without that chapter??
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Joseph
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:52 PM
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> Hey Tom
> 
> Hows your book coming along ?
> When can we expect it in our hands ?
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:42 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Front End Firewall
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> Hi Stephen,
> 
> It doesn't matter where you put it -- front-end, back-end, unihomed, 
> trihomed, in the basement or co-lo ISP -- its still going to be the 
> hardest box on your network. The templates don't confer any magic, 
> they just create some network rules and default policy.
> 
> I will guarantee that the ISA firewall is just as secure, and easily 
> arguable more secure, than the Sonicwall. But like all firewalls, you 
> need to understand how they work to get the most out of them. Out of 
> the box, no one is getting into your network or to the Internet, they 
> also aren't going to get to the ISA firewall either.
> 
> Remember, the Templates ARE NOT SMART -- YOU ARE SMART. Learn how the 
> ISA firewall works and you'll beat the pants of the templates!
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Tom
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> Get the book!
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls
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> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Herrera [mailto:sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:15 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Front End Firewall
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> Hi Tom,
> I setup the server with the vanilla install and imported my rules and 
> they all work. This is not how I really want to install my ISA server 
> though. I like the fact of being able to set it up giving it the 
> knowledge of where it lies on the network. Setting it up this default 
> way makes me wonder what security I am giving up by not having it know

> that it is the front end firewall. Almost as if I am duping it into 
> working. Plus, I would rather install it correctly the first time 
> rather than try and make a huge type of configuration change later on 
> down the line.
> 
> What doesn't make sense to me or the knowledge I am lacking is that 
> even when ISA server itself creates its own rule for the perimeter 
> network to have unrestricted external access the traffic is still not 
> allowed to pass. I have finally convinced my corporate office to drop 
> Sonicwall and switch to ISA and I would really like to have this 
> understood before I go out there and implement it for them.
> 
> Steve
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:29 AM
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> Subject:      [isalist] RE: Front End Firewall
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> Hi Stephen,
> 
> The templates are useful if you already know what you're doing. 
> They're less useful if you don't already know how everything works.
> 
> Try setting your Network Rules and Access Rules manually and see how 
> that works.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Tom
> www.isaserver.org/shinder
> Get the book!
> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 
> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Herrera [mailto:sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:15 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] Front End Firewall
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> Ok I thought I was going crazy trying to setup my Front End ISA2k4 
> Firewall in a back to back setup. It seems by default no matter what 
> rules I put in the perimeter network (DMZ) will not be allowed any 
> access out. I went through the template wizard and selected the open 
> all traffic just to test this theory and even though it created the 
> rule DMZ traffic was not allowed access to the Internet.
> 
> I then ran the template again using the back end firewall (all same ip
> schemes) and now that ISA believe my private IPs were internal not 
> perimeter everything worked fine. What am I missing to be able to 
> allow my DMZ to go out?
> 
> Steve
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