Re: [IRLGuideDogs] travel passes

  • From: "Nicholas Kealy" <nkealy@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 20:57:51 +0100

Tom, I did not whinge in my mail and would prefer if you didn't make that assumption when you next comment on one of my mails. I just stated a fact that the passes are not the easiest to manage and I will take your point about the subject line however I will point out to you that it was not off topic as you were referring to people having to carry their passes in the first place for to have tickets for these new machines. Now, I was clearly making a point on the issue and I do not have the time at the moment to be getting proposals ready for to go and do things about this problem. I didn't even say that I wanted to orriginally but if someone wants to do that then I will support it.

Cheers for now, Nicky.
----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Neill, Tom" <toneill@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Guide Dog Owners List (E-mail)" <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: [IRLGuideDogs] travel passes




Nicky,
First can everybody watch the subject lines and clearly state what the topic
of the mail is.

Previously on this list and on Ireland v.i.p news much discussion was had re
size of travel pass and what happened nothing that I know off. So we can all
whinge including myself all we like write e-mails like yours but until a
proposal is put together by a few people interested enough in the subject and
taken by one or all of the agencies supporting groups of disabled persons who
use travel passes to the department involved in the issuing of the travel
passes nothing will happen. So please someone on the list interested in
working instead of whinging collate all the appropriate e-mails and
suggestions, make up that proposal and ask in our case Irish Guide dogs to
take the proposal to a meeting with the issuing department and come back to
us with the reasons why the travel passes are that size.


It would be worth while for those of you who whinge about the size of the
travel passes to measure them against a fifty note EUR50 , then ask yourself
which is the biggest.
Now as you have found out the fifty note EUR50 is bigger so is that a good
reason to use all five notes EUR5 because there smaller

Next take the time to weigh your mobile phone and the travel pass and see
what weighs more.

I think we now know the travel pass is not that heavy or big and I'm not
defending the size of them just opening up your minds to all sorts of weights
and measures
I'll bet your glad I didn't ask you to measure or weigh a pint glass empty or
full


Cheers

Tom


-----Original Message----- From: Kealy, Nicky [mailto:Nicky.Kealy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 20 April 2006 08:32 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines


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Hi to all, I also think that this is an interesting development but I
would also say that something has to be done about the size of the
travel pass.  They are just too big and when you carry them around all
the time they just end up getting wrecked.



Cheers, Nicky.



-----Original Message-----
From: Audrey Tormey [mailto:atormey@xxxxxx]

Sent: 19 April 2006 17:02
To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines


Tom,

Thanks for your email! and what an interesting email Too! I was
participating in Disability Awareness Training delivered by NCBI and
other disability groups recently, and there was no mention of such
machines being introduced.  I wonder how accessible the machines for
validating one's ticket will be? if it's anything like the voting
machines there's no point! I sincerely hope NCBI and passengers who are
vision-impaired will be consulted when evaluating new ticket machines!

We'll have to watch this space!

Audrey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom O'Neill" <oneillbt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "guide dog owners" <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines


All

I have tried since 11th of April as the message below shows to get
this
message out on this list from my work e-mail address but it just goes

into siber space and to the best of my knowledge no body has got it.


Now I am going to try sending it from another email address I use so

here goes.

Tom



   -----Original Message-----
  From: O'Neill, Tom

     Sent: 11 April 2006 14:53
  To: Guide Dog Owners list (E-mail)
  Subject: train ticket validating machines
    All you guide dog owners and VIPs be aware that in the not too

distant future all train stations, including DART Stations will have

ticket validating
  machines installed.  The current plan within Irish Rail is that
everybody
using a travel pass or not must get a ticket for every journey that

they are doing. This will mean you must put your ticket through a

machine to
get
onto and off the platforms. For those of us that use travel pass

tickets this
  means we will have to get a ticket every single journey we travel
because
the  tickets can only be issued currently on a day return basis.
  The first two stations this is going to happen in are Clontarf Road

and Grand Canal dock two dart stations. It was to happen at the end

of February but
  there is a delay because Irish Rail are not happy with the machines

currently  been given to them.


it is only a matter of time until this happens and the ticket
validating
  machines are going in right across the system.
  Can I suggest that those of you who don't carry your travel passes

"because
  their too big" find them dust them off because your going to be

using
them
every day you take a suburban-intercity-train-dart journey likely

before the  end of this year.
    Staff at the center are aware of this system coming in and will be

viewing
  machines in conjunction with Irish Rail staff as soon as the two

pilot ones
  are in.  The next three stations after the pilot results are

Connolly, Tara
  Street and Pierce Stations


Reason behind it "fraud"


Any comments on this for me please use this list. No phone calls
please
  tom O'Neill







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