Very good. I'll try to give them a call before I leave later this afternoon. Darragh Ó Héiligh - Technical Lead Stream EMEA Direct Dial: +353 14400793 Ext: 2293 Stream Practice 18 - "Embrace change. Become a change agent. Always look for new and better ways of delivering the exceptional customer experience!" "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/05/2006 14:42 Please respond to irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: [IRLGuideDogs] travel passes Well, Firstly we have to investigate what if any plans there might already be for the free travel pass. It wouldn't be surprising that a new pass is planned and, as usual, nobody has remembered to actually tell the users. Remember this pass is used by pensioners as well as other disabled people. Contacting the relevant department, I assume it is social welfare, would seem like a first step. Tim -----Original Message----- From: irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darragh.OHeiligh@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: 04 May 2006 14:41 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [IRLGuideDogs] travel passes Tom, I'm sorry but your comparasons are flawed. 1. A 50 euro note was not created to be reused so extensively over its life time. 2. A mobile phone is much more durable than a pass. That plastic sleeve comes apart, bends and warps very rappidly due to its size. I do agree though that we need to get up off our collective asses and do something about this. Any one have an idea where we should start? Darragh Ó Héiligh - Stream EMEA Direct Dial: +353 14400793 Ext: 2293 Stream Practice 18 - "Embrace change. Become a change agent. Always look for new and better ways of delivering the exceptional customer experience!" "O'Neill, Tom" <toneill@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/05/2006 14:31 Please respond to irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To "Guide Dog Owners List \(E-mail\)" <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [IRLGuideDogs] travel passes Nicky, First can everybody watch the subject lines and clearly state what the topic of the mail is. Previously on this list and on Ireland v.i.p news much discussion was had re size of travel pass and what happened nothing that I know off. So we can all whinge including myself all we like write e-mails like yours but until a proposal is put together by a few people interested enough in the subject and taken by one or all of the agencies supporting groups of disabled persons who use travel passes to the department involved in the issuing of the travel passes nothing will happen. So please someone on the list interested in working instead of whinging collate all the appropriate e-mails and suggestions, make up that proposal and ask in our case Irish Guide dogs to take the proposal to a meeting with the issuing department and come back to us with the reasons why the travel passes are that size. It would be worth while for those of you who whinge about the size of the travel passes to measure them against a fifty note EUR50 , then ask yourself which is the biggest. Now as you have found out the fifty note EUR50 is bigger so is that a good reason to use all five notes EUR5 because there smaller Next take the time to weigh your mobile phone and the travel pass and see what weighs more. I think we now know the travel pass is not that heavy or big and I'm not defending the size of them just opening up your minds to all sorts of weights and measures I'll bet your glad I didn't ask you to measure or weigh a pint glass empty or full Cheers Tom -----Original Message----- From: Kealy, Nicky [mailto:Nicky.Kealy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 20 April 2006 08:32 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines ************************************* This e-mail has been received by the Revenue Internet e-mail service. ************************************* Hi to all, I also think that this is an interesting development but I would also say that something has to be done about the size of the travel pass. They are just too big and when you carry them around all the time they just end up getting wrecked. Cheers, Nicky. -----Original Message----- From: Audrey Tormey [mailto:atormey@xxxxxx] Sent: 19 April 2006 17:02 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines Tom, Thanks for your email! and what an interesting email Too! I was participating in Disability Awareness Training delivered by NCBI and other disability groups recently, and there was no mention of such machines being introduced. I wonder how accessible the machines for validating one's ticket will be? if it's anything like the voting machines there's no point! I sincerely hope NCBI and passengers who are vision-impaired will be consulted when evaluating new ticket machines! We'll have to watch this space! Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom O'Neill" <oneillbt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "guide dog owners" <irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: [irlguidedogs] train ticket validating machines > All > > I have tried since 11th of April as the message below shows to get this > message out on this list from my work e-mail address but it just goes > into siber space and to the best of my knowledge no body has got it. > Now I am going to try sending it from another email address I use so > here goes. > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Neill, Tom > > Sent: 11 April 2006 14:53 > To: Guide Dog Owners list (E-mail) > Subject: train ticket validating machines > All you guide dog owners and VIPs be aware that in the not too > distant future all train stations, including DART Stations will have > ticket validating > machines installed. The current plan within Irish Rail is that everybody > using a travel pass or not must get a ticket for every journey that > they are doing. This will mean you must put your ticket through a > machine to get > onto and off the platforms. For those of us that use travel pass > tickets this > means we will have to get a ticket every single journey we travel because > the tickets can only be issued currently on a day return basis. > The first two stations this is going to happen in are Clontarf Road > and Grand Canal dock two dart stations. It was to happen at the end > of February but > there is a delay because Irish Rail are not happy with the machines > currently been given to them. > > > it is only a matter of time until this happens and the ticket validating > machines are going in right across the system. > Can I suggest that those of you who don't carry your travel passes > "because > their too big" find them dust them off because your going to be > using them > every day you take a suburban-intercity-train-dart journey likely > before the end of this year. > Staff at the center are aware of this system coming in and will be > viewing > machines in conjunction with Irish Rail staff as soon as the two > pilot ones > are in. The next three stations after the pilot results are > Connolly, Tara > Street and Pierce Stations > > > Reason behind it "fraud" > > > Any comments on this for me please use this list. 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