Hi Ed and Dominique! Dominique, I agree with Ed when he said that stray dogs are not stupid and that usually just keeping going is enough. I used to have a major issue with stray dogs. Like everything its about education and awareness. It got sorted with the help of IGDB, a dog warden and by me helping myself by not getting upset or annoyed. I am now proud and I praise the members of the public I deal with. It is not their fault, its deeper than that, the laws and policies are all wrong. The majority of the Irish need to change their mind set in relation to animals. and as we go about our daily lives with our guide dogs I always remember one peace of advice one of the GDMI's gave me. 'You can't control things that are not in your own control@ Sorry for being deep and serious but hope this is some help to you Dominique. Thanks Ed! your story made me smile! Kind regards, Sabrina -----Original Message----- From: irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ed Harper Sent: 04 May 2006 13:07 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [IRLGuideDogs] Stray dogs Hi Dominique, I've only had the mounting problem once and that in South Mall Cork. I walked the length of south mall with an increasingly amorous large lab typed creature trying to mount my very large German Shepherd male. He was remarkably tolerant and kept going, which for him is hard as he is a fairly dominant dog by nature and the dominance implications of being mounted must have been really getting to him. Fortunately dogs don't suffer embarrassment. I started by ignoring the lab, then I tried shewing it off, then pushing it of and getting quite threatening. I even gave its ear a surreptitious pull. Clearly this was a dog who knew what he wanted, even if he wasn't getting it! I was with a friend of mine who was finding the business embarrassing and amusing by turns. When we got to Grand Parade, which Is a very busy road, she restrained our doggy companion whilst I crossed, thinking that a road full of traffic would disuade him. Well I say him, but I must admit I didn't check. Itt didn't! So I went into the park there and let Casey free, on the principle that, firstly he had really had enough by this time, and secondly he would sort out the other dog, who undoubtedly would get the message and retire, hopefully not hurt. It kind of worked, in that the stranger left. When I put Casey back in harness and left the park and crossed Grand parade again, to carry on in to Patrick Street we were rejoined! In the end we solved the problem, with out loss of life, by going into a bar, explaining the situation, to a very amused but totally unphased barman, and leaving by his back entrance, well perhaps I should be clearer in this context, leaving by the bar's back entrance. We then kept out of the way, from Patrick Street for 20 minutes or so, and the coast then appeared to be clear. I have never met the dog again, nor heard of his antics from anyone else, but maybe the trainers at the centre have encountered him as they work a lot in that area. Perhaps he has a harness fetish! But on a more serious note, I know how annoying stray dogs can be, but in 33 years of working a dog I have never been bitten by one and only once has one of my dogs been bitten, so I would say don't be frightened, be angry if necessary, even stray dogs aren't stupid and normally pick up very quickly on a situation which might turn unpleasant for them. Usually, though, keeping going is enough. All The Best Ed -----Original Message----- From: irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irlguidedogs-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dominique Farrell Sent: 03 May 2006 19:26 To: irlguidedogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IRLGuideDogs] Stray dogs Hi to all, Thanks for all your feedback, most enjoyable. This morning myself and Holly were followed by 2 dogs who were roaming around. One proceeded to get up on Holly's back, she just took it in her stride, but needless to say it frightened the hell out of me. On our way home this evening, I went to press the button on the light at the crossing at O'Connell street and it was splattered with tomato sauce. This is what all GDO'S are up against on a daily basis. Have the public no consideration for us whatsoever. That's how Holly's paw is now in bandage for the last 2 weeks. She cut the pad of it on glass, while enjoying her free run. The public should be more aware of the dangers of things like this. It's really annoyed me. Dominique & Holly. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/06