BTW, that change I'm going to do won't break or interfere with anything in the current Opinions ? Adi, still around ? I know you're slaving away at writing BView, but I won't bother you much :) Yup :-) as much as I can. I don't know the details of BDirectWindow, but if you say its development doesn't interfere with app_server's, then go ahead and do your magic :-) BTW, how do you do clipping to the visible surface if you give access to the frame buffer? Adi. --------------------------------------------------------------- Trimite celor dragi cele mai frumoase felicitari de Paste prin http://felicitari.acasa.ro