[PCB_FORUM] Re: wasn't there a way to "mirror" geometries?

Speaking of issues of "out of the box dumb... "   When in the new 16.0
"Gen" application mode, in the move command, I cannot rotate a selected
bunch of comps, or text or whatever, using the RMB rotate command...
but I can do this in the "None" application mode, again using move, RMB,
rotate.  

 

Tiny issue...  but com'on.   Part of the "don't you love being a beta
tester" mode, eh?

 

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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: wasn't there a way to "mirror" geometries?

 

Gerry, that should work, but there are is the possibility of other via
issues when mirroring, not only for test points but for sequentially
laminated boards where the particular drilling "structure" may not exist
on the back side (i.e. you only only want laser vias on top, not the
bottom).  

 

In my humble opinion:

The modules should be able to be mirrored "out-of-the-box" without
playing games with them.  It is really dumb to have them able to move
but not mirror, and Cadence should implement this. The above  cases
would have to throw an error if they happened (compare the stackup
before actually mirroring, maybe), but the point is they would help the
users.

 

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Meier
        Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 09:21
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        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: wasn't there a way to "mirror"
geometries?

        Have you tried assigning the symbols and clines as a "Group" and
then mirroring the group?

        I think this might work the only issue is it may also mirror
your vias and if some of them are 

        Test points the access pad may be on the wrong side of the board
now.

         

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geometries?

         

         

        I'm sorry, you are right.  I thought I had done that in 15.2,
but obviously I was wrong as it doesn't work in 15.7 or 16.0.   :}  My
apologies to anyone who was going nutz trying to figure out how it was
done...

         

        Been working support too long :[

         

         

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
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                Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 23:51
                To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: wasn't there a way to "mirror"
geometries?

                George,
                
                How did you manage to mirror a module? I tried it and
the mirror command does not apply to a single unit which is a module. I
could mirror only components, but not clines/shapes which are also part
of the module. I tried with 15.7 Performance.
                
                Robert
                
                george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: 

                 

                Yep.

                 

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                        Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:26
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"mirror" geometries?

                        Never tried to mirror a module, works ok?

                         

                         

                        
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                        We typically try to do stuff like this as a
module.  Especially when we are trying to exactly replicate the circuit.
Then it can be easily moved/rotated/mirrored without needing to reassign
anything.

                         

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                                Subject: [PCB_FORUM] wasn't there a way
to "mirror" geometries?

                                I have to match line and shape of some
clines...  is there a way to copy and mirror this lines...  of course
I'll also have the issue of needing to reassign the new nets to them.
Anyone have any ideas for this?  

                                These are not just matched length, but
also matched curves and shapes of clines.  

        
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