[PCB_FORUM] Re: the king's enlish

Rant

Maybe we could run the email threw babelfish Fish for all are brothers
and sisters in the third world.

Knowing a couple of languages will be a great asset when all the pcb
jobs are offshore.

/rant
LOU

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Friedman [mailto:jf@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:39 PM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: the king's enlish


So it seems that I have been drastically misunderstood.

1. I did not criticize anyone's grammar.
2. I did NOT suggest IN ANY WAY that non-native speakers do not belong
on this forum 3. I did not suggest that "proper" English =
sophistication

I speak many languages. I have lived all over the world. My intent WAS
EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. It is much easier for people, who speak English as
a second language to read posts that are not encoded. English programs
do not teach "c" = "see" and "u" = "you". In a technical forum these
characters also have meaning as keystrokes, hotkeys, menu shortcuts, and
the like -- which can lead to confusion if your language background is
weak. I am trying to improve the inclusiveness of the forum, not exclude
people out of ignorance. Everyone who understands the "chat" shorthand
understands the full words, but the opposite is not true.

I made no mention of grammar. Language contains redundant constructs
that implement error-correction. Therefore, the fewer ambiguities in the
individual words, the more tolerance you leave for grammatical mistakes.

However, I will not retreat from my original statement that we are all
"educated, sophisticated engineers". I have been doing PCB design for
almost a decade, yet I still learn new things from the people on this
forum virtually every day. When I said sophisticated, I was talking
about you all as people, not your use of language. Words are just a
means to an end.

My original comment was not an attack on Rakesh, but a suggestion to the
group. So let me apologize to him publicly, if he, indeed, felt singled
out by it. I have several friends at C-DoT. Incidentally, I was one of
only three people to welcome Rakesh to the group.

And to the group as a whole, for those of you who took offense, let me
offer my sincerest apologies.

Glad I could at least could provide some entertainment.


Regards,

Jonathan Friedman, GSR
Networked Embedded Systems Laboratory (NESL)
University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)

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