[PCB_FORUM] Re: squares on same clines intersections

 Q1. What is this diamond mark?
    This diamond mark is referred to as a "connect point" or "cpoint". The 
displayed
    size of this connect point is controlled by the "Connect point size" field
    in the Drawing Options >Display Tab
    
Q2. Do any of these marks influence a design?
    There is no "influence" of the design other than marking where a FIXED cline
    segment joins a cline segment that does not have the FIXED property.
    
Q3. Is this a "feature" for the fixed segment? 
    This is a feature of the fixed segment which lets the user know where clines
    join that have differing FIXED property values.
 
This is explained in the documentation titled: 
"Allegro/APD Design Guide: Routing -- 2. Interactive Routing"
in the section labeled:
Connection Behavior in Groups
If the user would like to remove these connect points they can perform the
following:
1. Remove the FIXED property from the clines
2. Use Edit >Move and select all of the clines
3. In the command area type:
     ix 0
     
This will merge the clines into one segment as can be seen by performing a "Show
Element on the clines before and after the above steps are performed. Please 
have
only CLINES selected in the FIND filter.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:41:36 -0700
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: squares on same clines intersections


 
The diamond denotes a Tee point or a cline coming from a module.  I have also 
seen them occasionally when a line runs across a constraint areas (usually 
shows up when you slide such a line).  I have only seen them not able to be 
deleted when something associated with the cline is fixed.  If the cline is 
part of a module you may need to unfix the module.
 
If none of that helps you should try running dbdoctor on the database.
 
Good luck!
 
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of William Billereau
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 01:02
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: squares on same clines intersections


Hello Chris (Vince?)

Here is a screenshot.
The rhombus is inside the red ellipse.
Delete clines only selects the clines on the right of the rhombus (the 
temporary highlighted on) but not the left part of the cline (I redraw it with 
a thin blue line)
A derive connectivity does not correct the probleme.

        William.




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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vince fornier
Sent: 01 June, 2006 11:50 PM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: squares on same clines intersections


> On some jobs, we re-route traces and then we got rhombuses (rotated
> squares) on same clines intersections. It is the same net, connection
> is done but it causes that delete clines (not clines segs) deletes
> only part before or after these squares.
>
> What and where to change to remove these squares and make complete
> clines?

Some screenshots would be helpful. But I think I understand your issue: one or 
more of the sides of the rhombus is not a cline but rather a collection of 
clines that look to the eye as one continuous trace - so instead of doing 
"delete clines" once you must do it mulitple times to clear up all the little 
stubs?

If such is the case, you could delete one such short cline which would 
implicitly make the others part of a dangline cline(s). Do this for all the 
rhombuses , then you could scrub all the affected nets with SKILL routine 
find_dlines

HTH,

Chris Walters
local Cadence guru
(Apple)


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