[PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

Group:
I've been using the basic allegro for about 5 or 6 years. Monday we got the performance option. I guess there are classes and on line training but the company is not very willing to pay for Allegro training, I don't think we register on their list of piorities. I've learn much from reading answers from other users questions, probably alot more than if i spend a couple of days in San Jose at the training site.
I get frustrated with source link. I can put in a couple of keywords and I'll get 20 places to look for hits. The customer support can take a day before someone answers and but I usually get good answers.
This site I can type in a question and wha-la, someone answers 5 mins wait time. I didn't know this site was for high end users. 
 thanks again for all who responded.


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From: J Wages <jwages@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 4:55 pm
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

Just my two cents worth. I don’t mind answering basic questions since it doesn’t cause much distraction from my working mode. We’ve all been through the hassle of using the “Help Line” and trying to figure out a problem with someone that can barely speak English. Ask away. If you don’t want to answer… don’t. That’s why we have this forum… and hopefully keep it.
 
Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer: 
Cary, NC - H: 919-466-1596 Cell: 919-484-2963
 
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From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Carman
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:08 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
 
He’s right about getting faster answers here…  this is a lot easier to navigate than source link, and the very knowledgeable users do like to show off. 
 
But there is a point where one should RTFM. 
 
 
 
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:43 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
 
Thanks gary
Your right, it just my questions usually get answered faster here. Gary if your too busy you don't have to answer these. I don't think your the only one with all the answers. Please feel free to not respond to any of my questions.
Thanks
Sam


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From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 1:18 pm
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Sam,
 
If your company is paying for support, you can contact Cadence Customer Support for all of your questions.
Since you are asking lots of basic questions, it’s clear that a formal training class would benefit you greatly.
 
The people on this list are not your customer support.  We don’t mind answering some questions (we kinda like to show off our knowledge!), but you’re asking too many basic ones.
Sorry about the bluntness.  If your company can afford the Allegro license, they should be able to afford a training class.
 
Good luck!
 
Gary
 
 
Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:10 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
 
Gary, thanks, I'll ask for money to take training..I thought our million dollars for support would handle questions.
 
Thanks
Sam


-----Original Message-----
From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:16 am
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Dave,
 
I build the Constraint Area into the BGA library part, and assign the NET_SPACING_TYPE and NET_PHYSICAL_TYPE (= BGA) there also.
That way, it does move with the BGA symbol, even if you modify its extents.
 
Also, “sjchar3” (name?), it sounds like you need to talk your employer into some formal training!
 
Good luck!
 
Gary
 
 
Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mattice
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:17 AM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
 
I have always used a Constraint Area for this. And assigned the appropriate
Spacing and Physical constraint sets. Only trouble is that the constraint does not follow
The component when moving. You can create a Alternate and lock it in place that way.
 
dm
 
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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:21 AM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
 
group: I have a BGA and I would like to route 4 mil trace between pins, and only a certain via would be used in this location. The rest of the board is 8 mil traces. Do i set up a room, area or region? 

Thanks Austin for you earlier reply.

Thanks again.
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