[PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

Hi Jim,

I agree.  Thanks for saying something.

If someone doesn't want to take the time to answer newbie (well, IMO, these
questions weren't really *that* newbie) questions, no one is forcing you to
answer, much less read them and the replies.  I, personally, don't want to
see anyone discouraged from asking what ever Allegro related questions they
want here.  That's what the list is for IMO.

I know some aspects of the tools really well, but others I may not have had
a chance to use, and are unfamiliar with them...and I'd hate to think that
I'd get beaten up for asking them here.  Personally, I haven't used rooms or
areas, so I know squat about them, and these replies are useful to me.
Sure, people can go look it up, but sometimes, and if you're in a rush, it's
faster to ask someone else, and sometimes this place is better than paid for
support.  Now, if someone does that 100 times, then that's out of line...but
that's not what happened here.

Regards,

Austin
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  Just my two cents worth. I don't mind answering basic questions since it
doesn't cause much distraction from my working mode. We've all been through
the hassle of using the "Help Line" and trying to figure out a problem with
someone that can barely speak English. Ask away. If you don't want to
answer. don't. That's why we have this forum. and hopefully keep it.



  Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer:

  Cary, NC - H: 919-466-1596 Cell: 919-484-2963



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  He's right about getting faster answers here.  this is a lot easier to
navigate than source link, and the very knowledgeable users do like to show
off.



  But there is a point where one should RTFM.








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  Thanks gary
  Your right, it just my questions usually get answered faster here. Gary if
your too busy you don't have to answer these. I don't think your the only
one with all the answers. Please feel free to not respond to any of my
questions.
  Thanks
  Sam


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  From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
  To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 1:18 pm
  Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

  Sam,



  If your company is paying for support, you can contact Cadence Customer
Support for all of your questions.

  Since you are asking lots of basic questions, it's clear that a formal
training class would benefit you greatly.



  The people on this list are not your customer support.  We don't mind
answering some questions (we kinda like to show off our knowledge!), but you
're asking too many basic ones.

  Sorry about the bluntness.  If your company can afford the Allegro
license, they should be able to afford a training class.



  Good luck!



  Gary





  Gary E. MacIndoe
  PCB Design Engineer
  Fort Collins, Colorado

  amd.com

  gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx


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  Gary, thanks, I'll ask for money to take training..I thought our million
dollars for support would handle questions.



  Thanks
  Sam


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  From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
  To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:16 am
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  Dave,



  I build the Constraint Area into the BGA library part, and assign the
NET_SPACING_TYPE and NET_PHYSICAL_TYPE (= BGA) there also.

  That way, it does move with the BGA symbol, even if you modify its
extents.



  Also, "sjchar3" (name?), it sounds like you need to talk your employer
into some formal training!



  Good luck!



  Gary





  Gary E. MacIndoe
  PCB Design Engineer
  Fort Collins, Colorado

  amd.com

  gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx


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  I have always used a Constraint Area for this. And assigned the
appropriate

  Spacing and Physical constraint sets. Only trouble is that the constraint
does not follow

  The component when moving. You can create a Alternate and lock it in place
that way.



  dm




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  group: I have a BGA and I would like to route 4 mil trace between pins,
and only a certain via would be used in this location. The rest of the board
is 8 mil traces. Do i set up a room, area or region?

  Thanks Austin for you earlier reply.

  Thanks again.


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