[PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

Constraint area.

 

Do you have on line help? Depending on what version of Allegro you are
running,

You will need to add a physical constraint set and a spacing constraint
set.

The spacing for your 4 mil requirement and the physical is where you can
add the particular

VIA symbol name. These of course are properties that get attached to the
constraint area shape.

Read my earlier email for the class(layer) it is on.

 

Then be sure to fill in the Assignment table and Set DRCmodes.

 

Sam, I agree with Gary, This forum is monitored by everyday workers like
yourself. We get paid

To get all the dots connected properly. I for one do NOT get overtime
and must stay till something is

Completed or released. Consequently, taking the time to run through some
of these more entry level

Questions for you costs us too. I am not grumpy today and happen to feel
pretty good. And for now I do

Have a little free time, And I have an answer for you so I answered.
That is not always the case but I do read

Most of the posts and have picked up some nuggets from time to time. And
I have used this crazy

Software for 14 years or so.

 

I would advise you to talk these things over with your management to try
and get you some training. But

Ask them when you are NOT grumpy but happy. Ha-ha

dm

 

 

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sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:39 PM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

 

Grumpy is ok cause when i ask for help, I get "pay money and get
training".  A first grader could probably come up with an answer like
that. 

 

Our company does IC's. I build little boards to validate the ICs. The
company pays big money to keep the ic designers busy. I get peanuts
during breaks.

I'm at the bottom or last in line when it comes to training. 

 

I'm also grumpy today. So do I set up a room or area?

 

thanks Sam


-----Original Message-----
From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:29 pm
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

 

If your company is paying a million dollars in support, I would think
some of the other users at your company could help you.  You must have
more than just yourself...

 

Pardon me for getting a little grumpy, but we don't get any of that
support money and after 3 or more years or more of your very basic
questions I'd have thought you'd have realized that you NEED training,
not support.  Getting snotty about ot doesn't help your case.

 

-- 
George Patrick
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<mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?> ] On Behalf Of 
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        Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:10
        To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with
performance)

        Gary, thanks, I'll ask for money to take training..I thought our
million dollars for support would handle questions.

         

        Thanks
        Sam
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
        To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:16 am
        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with
performance)

        Dave,

         

        I build the Constraint Area into the BGA library part, and
assign the NET_SPACING_TYPE and NET_PHYSICAL_TYPE (= BGA) there also.

        That way, it does move with the BGA symbol, even if you modify
its extents.

         

        Also, "sjchar3" (name?), it sounds like you need to talk your
employer into some formal training!

         

        Good luck!

         

        Gary

         

          

        Gary E. MacIndoe
        PCB Design Engineer
        Fort Collins, Colorado

        amd.com

        gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx <mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx> 

        
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        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with
performance)

         

        I have always used a Constraint Area for this. And assigned the
appropriate

        Spacing and Physical constraint sets. Only trouble is that the
constraint does not follow

        The component when moving. You can create a Alternate and lock
it in place that way.

         

        dm

         

        
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        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] rooms and areas (beginner with performance)

         

        group: I have a BGA and I would like to route 4 mil trace
between pins, and only a certain via would be used in this location. The
rest of the board is 8 mil traces. Do i set up a room, area or region?  
        
        Thanks Austin for you earlier reply.
        
        Thanks again. 

        
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