[PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
- From: sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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- Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:38:37 -0400
Grumpy is ok cause when i ask for help, I get "pay money and get training". A first grader could probably come up with an answer like that.
Our company does IC's. I build little boards to validate the ICs. The company pays big money to keep the ic designers busy. I get peanuts during breaks.
I'm at the bottom or last in line when it comes to training.
I'm also grumpy today. So do I set up a room or area?
thanks Sam
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From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:29 pm
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
If your company is paying a million dollars in support, I would think some of the other users at your company could help you. You must have more than just yourself...
Pardon me for getting a little grumpy, but we don't get any of that support money and after 3 or more years or more of your very basic questions I'd have thought you'd have realized that you NEED training, not support. Getting snotty about ot doesn't help your case.
--
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
Å 503-627-5272 (voice) Æ 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
"Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
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From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:10
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Gary, thanks, I'll ask for money to take training..I thought our million dollars for support would handle questions.
Thanks
Sam
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From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:16 am
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Dave,
I build the Constraint Area into the BGA library part, and assign the NET_SPACING_TYPE and NET_PHYSICAL_TYPE (= BGA) there also.
That way, it does move with the BGA symbol, even if you modify its extents.
Also, “sjchar3” (name?), it sounds like you need to talk your employer into some formal training!
Good luck!
Gary
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mattice
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:17 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
I have always used a Constraint Area for this. And assigned the appropriate
Spacing and Physical constraint sets. Only trouble is that the constraint does not follow
The component when moving. You can create a Alternate and lock it in place that way.
dm
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:21 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
group: I have a BGA and I would like to route 4 mil trace between pins, and only a certain via would be used in this location. The rest of the board is 8 mil traces. Do i set up a room, area or region?
Thanks Austin for you earlier reply.
Thanks again.
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-----Original Message-----
From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:29 pm
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
If your company is paying a million dollars in support, I would think some of the other users at your company could help you. You must have more than just yourself...
Pardon me for getting a little grumpy, but we don't get any of that support money and after 3 or more years or more of your very basic questions I'd have thought you'd have realized that you NEED training, not support. Getting snotty about ot doesn't help your case.
--
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
Å 503-627-5272 (voice) Æ 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!"
-----Original Message-----
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:10
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Gary, thanks, I'll ask for money to take training..I thought our million dollars for support would handle questions.Thanks
Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: Macindoe, Gary <Gary.Macindoe@xxxxxxx>
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:16 am
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)
Dave,I build the Constraint Area into the BGA library part, and assign the NET_SPACING_TYPE and NET_PHYSICAL_TYPE (= BGA) there also.That way, it does move with the BGA symbol, even if you modify its extents.Also, “sjchar3” (name?), it sounds like you need to talk your employer into some formal training!Good luck!Gary
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mattice
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:17 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: rooms and areas (beginner with performance)I have always used a Constraint Area for this. And assigned the appropriateSpacing and Physical constraint sets. Only trouble is that the constraint does not followThe component when moving. You can create a Alternate and lock it in place that way.dm
From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:21 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] rooms and areas (beginner with performance)group: I have a BGA and I would like to route 4 mil trace between pins, and only a certain via would be used in this location. The rest of the board is 8 mil traces. Do i set up a room, area or region?
Thanks Austin for you earlier reply.
Thanks again.
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