[PCB_FORUM] Re: mysterious via shifting

I only do mils to 2 places normally, but you can go 3 or 4 by setting an env
variable (or user preference).
 

Patrick Westfeldt, Jr. 
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Hi Patrick, 

You are probably on the trail... I placed the vias in the BGA footprint in
mm (0.8mm). The shift is likely derived from the rounding to mils in the
tool which may have occurred when I experimented with the "Fanout By Pick"
command. I never ran fanout on the BGA, my experiment was on a bypass cap
for another IC. I also tried to add another decimal point to the database
but Allegro would only allow 2 for mils. 

Oh the woes of unit conversion! 

I was curious if anyone else had similar experience... I opted NOT to use
the "Fanout By Pick" command in the master copy and the 0.8mm BGA is holding
up so far. 

Thanks for the input. 




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I'm not sure when Allegro decides it has an unconnect, but if you fanned
out, copying at 31.5 mils, 5 copies gets you a .02mil error.  I don't really
see how this is the mechanism for your problem, but you do have a tiny error
in your 31.5mils spacing, should be 31.496. 
  

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Anyone experience a mysterious shifting of vias in Allegro 15.2 s126
(v15-2-51EU) (12/14/2005) i86... ? 

The design is in mils to 2 decimal places. The vias are in a 0.8 mm BGA
(spaced at 31.50 mils apart). Somehow the group of vias within the rectangle
pictured below shifted by 0.10 mils sometime during my edits - cause
unknown... 



It is important to note that I did not change the database resolution - it
has remained (mils to two decimal places). The only thing I changed was the
routing grid which I switched between 25 mils, 5 mils and 0.1 mils as I was
working in different areas of the layout and I was not working in the area
where the vias shifted. 

Puzzl_Ed 

Ed Caldwell 
Electronic Design Services, LLC 
Canton, GA - USA

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