Group: I thought at one time the rats use to travel with the part during placement. I do a move => symbol., the rats disappear but after placing part on board the rats will reappear. Just curious if I'm remembering something that never was. I'm using the latest cadence 15.5. Thanks Sam ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com