[PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
- From: Larry Briski <lgb@xxxxxxx>
- To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:44:22 -0500
All,
I'm reading that Dale wanted to know how to void out underneath a
component's case rather than just a padstack. If that's the case (pun
intended, its Friday) the method I've been using is to use the Allegro
symbol editor to add a route_keepout_all shape under the component.
When the component is placed onto the board, edit-z-copy the shape to
the appropriate layer(s) and delete the route_keepout_all shape. This
way if the component is moved the route keepout shape follows along with
it.
And yes, I learned that the hard way.
Larry
Macindoe, Gary wrote:
Dale,
The method that Mike describes below will work. But… keep in mind that
all symbols that use this padstack will be affected.
Also, I would make the anti-pad for the ground relief a little larger
than the smd pad.
You could create a unique name for this padstack that’s only used for
that symbol.
Good luck!
*Gary E. MacIndoe
*PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx
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Do an edit padstack for the pad in the footprint, open the pad and
make and anti-pad on the gnd layer
using the same geometry as the surface pad. Save the pad as a
different name....then replace the padstack
on the component with the new one, it will void the layer below.
Only problem is that if you ever need to
refresh the footprint you lose the void.
Mike
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Dale Rasmusen
*Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 12:41 PM
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*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features
clearance?
Hi Gary,
I have a smd component that requires the gnd plane (layer 2) to be
cleared underneath the part for SI reasons. Do you have any good
automatic way of doing this other than making a manual void in the shape?
Thanks,
Dale Rasmusen
CAD Manager
**TEKNOVUS**
(707) 665-0400 ext 133
(707) 665-0491 fax
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Macindoe, Gary
*Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 8:23 AM
*To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features
clearance?
Hey Austin,
The clearance for a shape is accomplished in one of two ways (negative
or positive shapes).
For inner /negative/ shapes (planes), Allegro uses the padstack
definition, “Anti Pad”.
If you need to increase this clearance on a board wide basis, you would
modify the “Anti Pad” definition for the padstack in the design.
If you want to increase the clearance on a case by case basis (i.e.
“individual THP”), use Shape -> Manual Void -> Circular (or Rectangular,
Polygon etc.).
For a /positive /inner or outer shape, you have much more control.
Using Shape -> Global Dynamic Params…, you set up the parameters that
will be applied to every shape that you create in your design.
Then, you can adjust the parameters of each shape individually, after it
is created:
- Shape - > Select Shape or Void
- click on the shape to highlight it
- RMB on the shape to Parameters…
- Adjust the parameters as needed
Good luck, e-mail me if you have any questions about this.
Gary
*Gary E. MacIndoe
*PCB Design Engineer
Fort Collins, Colorado
amd.com
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:33 PM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
Hi,
In PADS, the clearance matrix contains a drill to other feature clearance
(such as copper, trace, via, pad). Where in Allegro can I set up similar
clearances, say, for drill to copper (shape)?
Regards,
Austin
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Dale,The method that Mike describes below will work. But… keep in mind that all symbols that use this padstack will be affected.
Also, I would make the anti-pad for the ground relief a little larger than the smd pad.
You could create a unique name for this padstack that’s only used for that symbol.
Good luck!
*Gary E. MacIndoe *PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *gnieski_mike@xxxxxxx
*Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 10:52 AM *To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
Do an edit padstack for the pad in the footprint, open the pad and make and anti-pad on the gnd layer
using the same geometry as the surface pad. Save the pad as a different name....then replace the padstack
on the component with the new one, it will void the layer below. Only problem is that if you ever need to
refresh the footprint you lose the void.
Mike
------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Dale Rasmusen
*Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 12:41 PM *To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
Hi Gary,I have a smd component that requires the gnd plane (layer 2) to be cleared underneath the part for SI reasons. Do you have any good automatic way of doing this other than making a manual void in the shape?
Thanks,
Dale Rasmusen CAD Manager **TEKNOVUS** (707) 665-0400 ext 133 (707) 665-0491 fax ------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Macindoe, Gary
*Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 8:23 AM *To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
Hey Austin,The clearance for a shape is accomplished in one of two ways (negative or positive shapes).
For inner /negative/ shapes (planes), Allegro uses the padstack definition, “Anti Pad”.
If you need to increase this clearance on a board wide basis, you would modify the “Anti Pad” definition for the padstack in the design.
If you want to increase the clearance on a case by case basis (i.e. “individual THP”), use Shape -> Manual Void -> Circular (or Rectangular, Polygon etc.).
For a /positive /inner or outer shape, you have much more control.Using Shape -> Global Dynamic Params…, you set up the parameters that will be applied to every shape that you create in your design.
Then, you can adjust the parameters of each shape individually, after it is created:
- Shape - > Select Shape or Void - click on the shape to highlight it - RMB on the shape to Parameters… - Adjust the parameters as needed
Good luck, e-mail me if you have any questions about this.
Gary
*Gary E. MacIndoe *PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-----From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:33 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Where do you set drill to other features clearance?
Hi,
In PADS, the clearance matrix contains a drill to other feature clearance (such as copper, trace, via, pad). Where in Allegro can I set up similar clearances, say, for drill to copper (shape)?
Regards,
Austin
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