Gary, that was not me responding on that forum post about the hold the fort part. But thank you for providing the link to the share-ware skill routines that are publicly available. I have not have a chance to investigate and try it out, but it looks like Andreas Kulik has provided a sample skill routine. Thanks Andreas, I will check to see how it performs when I have a chance. Sincerely yours, Michael Baumstark Sr. Electrical Engineer / PCB Design, CID+ Motorola - Advanced Product Technology Center 8000 West Sunrise Blvd. Mail Stop: 8E8 Plantation, FL USA 33322-9947 Intra: http://rprc.mot.com ; http://pcbadvisor.mot.com web: http://www.motorola.com --------------^------------------^-----------------^------------------^- ------------- >---^-.--- >---^-.--- >---^-.--- Motorola Internal Use [ ] Motorola Confidential Proprietary [ ] -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:53 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Michael, I'm holding down the fort, but I guess I wasn't clear. I was just giving you the link to all the SKILL codes on Sourcelink. Sorry to get your hopes up, no I don't write SKILL code. Regards, Gary E. MacIndoe Advanced Micro Devices PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mattice Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:46 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Hold the FORT!!!!!!!! Gary, are you saying that a skill file NOW exists to do this?? In whatever way I don't really care right now. Anything is better than What we have to do now. Did you write this? -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:20 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Here it is Michael! http://sourcelink.cadence.com/en/infomgmt/DisplayStaticLink.jhtml?/docs/ files/SKILL/Allegro_SKILL_Code/welcome.html Gary E. MacIndoe Advanced Micro Devices PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Baumstark Michael-EMB043 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:00 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Chris: So I will be the second or third to concur (including Carl Musetti who suggested similar off-line), that a Skill routine to accomplish this would be the first pick workaround solution, second only to a Cadence Allegro "out of the Box" solution. 1 - I like the windowed approach for cutting a section of circuitry out of a section. I would be very impressed if such a utility could be incorporated into the "File export Sub-drawing utility" as an option to the existing methodology and/or adding additionally selected items, "outside the box" as part of temp grouping. This could be the bonus solution. 2 - If item one were implemented, a simple mirror (move) routine would probably be an acceptable solution. Since this forum thread has been floating around for about a week now, I will tentatively take it as an assumption that no one view this thread to date has such a solution, (As a skill routine.) It has been a while since I last checked, but could someone point me to the Cadence website where they host a large collection of "Cadence Unsupported" skill routines? That will be the next place I ping for a pre-existing solution. We need to get this functionality automated (including full layer pair mapping and user defined, including multiple via structures, ie. HDI, and blind vias) core the Through hole vias are easy. Sincerely yours, Michael Baumstark Sr. Electrical Engineer / PCB Design, CID+ Motorola - Advanced Product Technology Center 8000 West Sunrise Blvd. Mail Stop: 8E8 Plantation, FL USA 33322-9947 Intra: http://rprc.mot.com ; http://pcbadvisor.mot.com web: http://www.motorola.com --------------^------------------^-----------------^------------------^- ------------- >---^-.--- >---^-.--- >---^-.--- Motorola Internal Use [ ] Motorola Confidential Proprietary [ ] -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mattice Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:30 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Absolutely Chris! Regarding the flipped objects getting deleted; I would prefer an option to either copy, then Leave them, or move and delete them. ? Or maybe the skill routine could be invoked After either selecting edit copy or edit delete. Just a thought. -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vince fornier Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:09 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: What is the most convenient way to Flip a piece of circuitry for re-use to opposite side of PCB? Seems like a perfect task for a SKILL routine. Perhaps something like, 1) draw a box around whatall you want flipped 2) right-click to close the box 3) select from a list of choices "top->bottom" "bottom->top" "cancel" The routine would snip any etch that crossed the boundaries of the box. One subtlety: would you be wanting what gets flipped to then be deleted from their original locations or not? An interesting idea. Good enuff for a paper at the ICU perhaps? Chris Walters local Cadence guru () PS - anyone know of opportunities for a(nother) Cadence guru? _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------