[PCB_FORUM] Re: Voting

George,  you absolutely right ! Why we didn't it before ?


Uri

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I'll make this suggestion again:

The top-5 issues need to be discussed in the forum before votes are
taken. There are a few issues that seemed silly to me that might have
actually been useful if they were discussed and better wording hammered
out among the active members.  An example is #1 "Make selection pop-ups
big so scrollbars aren't needed."  The example given is the Color and
Visibility window.  This functionality is already in Allegro, you drag
the box to the size you want and close it when you are done.  The next
time it pops up it is that same size and location (unless you lock your
.geo files, or you dragged it to your second monitor.)  If this and
other issues had been discussed we might have a smaller list of more
useful functions to decide vote on and submit to Cadence.

Too late for this year (or last year when I originally suggested it).

-- 
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
Phone: 503-627-5272         Fax: 503-627-5587
http://www.tektronix.com    http://www.pcb-designer.com

It's my opinion, not Tektronix' 



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Matija,

The top x issue list is more of an recommendation to Cadence. Think of
it 
like Christmas wish list.
Anyway, I did not mean to discourage anyone from submitting issues that 
are already being worked on. 

But think about the following for a minute. A few years ago the top
entry 
was the request for dynamic shapes. A true enhancements. Well we got it 
and it is quite
awesome to work with if you understand what is does and how the property

stuff works that is related to it. Now, would you
rather have a feature like this on the top five or a fix for the
behavior 
of the open file dialog box?

If you have an open service request and need it to be fixed asap, well
the 
time to get it fixed is in direct proportion to the number of users
reporting the issue. You use the top x issue list for this, well chances

are that you will prevent a new enhancement from
being implemented. Just some food for thought.

Best Regards
Andreas




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Hello,

No,
the purpose of the top x is to give the company a *sense of urgency*
from 
the prospective of users.
Thus on the top x list there must be items: 
-that are in the works but are not resolved yet, but the user need them
to 
fix RASAP.
-that are not in the works but shuld be taken into consideration for the

users prospective.
-that are not in the works because the company doesnt know are
"problems" 
for the users.

The company is then free to add other items that they feel are /see as/ 
important and build the final list of things to work on.

Bye
  Matija


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy_Kulik@xxxxxxx [mailto:Andy_Kulik@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Voting
> 
> 
> Hello Uri,
> 
> May I make a suggestion for next year. Do not submit an issue
> that Cadence 
> Customer Support is already working on. ;-)
> The purpose of the top issues is, as far as I understand, to 
> give the user 
> a chance to point out problems and/or enhancements,
> which Cadence should consider to solve or address. So I think you 
> understand that there is no real point in submitting something
> Cadence is already working on.
> 
> Please note that we cannot remove this entry form the list,
> as it would 
> corrupt the results at this point. In case this issue makes 
> it into the
> final top 5 we will remove it, since it already has been addressed.
> 
> Are there any other issues you submitted, that are already
> fixed in the 
> latest release?
> 
> Regards
> Andreas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Uri Chaplianka
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> 07/27/2004 11:13 AM
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> 
> 
> Hi Andy !
> 
> Please remove from voting for Allegro title 2 " Attach 
> NODRC_ETCH_OUTSIDE_KEEPIN" property to etch text. Because
> 1- text have not property !
> 2 - Below you can see tile of my mail with Richard Bennett and this 
> problem will be solved in other way.
> 
> ================================================================
> Hi Uri,
> 
> Just to let you know, I have entered the PCR enhancement for
> this issue 
> Marketing have gave it there backing so hopefully R&D will get this
> implemented in Allegro 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Richard Bennett
> (Applications Engineer)
> Cadence Design Systems           Tel: 01344 865444     Fax: 
> 01344 866534
> ================================================================
> Hi Richard !
> 
>  I ask myself : Why exist in Design Constraints "On/Off"  to 
> "Package_to_Package", "Package_to_Place_keepin" and other option  and 
> not exist to "Etch outside Route_Keepin"  ? May be for me not interest

> to check what outside route keepin ? What about include this new row 
> to Design Constraints ?
> 
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