Hi No, they're not that bad - not as bad as the screenshot portrayed them to be. Gui graphics artists still have to be aware that fancy looking icons aren't always a step in a better direction. Clarity is still good, especially for some people who don't use Allegro a lot (lab techs, line assemblers) Allegro 16.0, first impressions: Good points: - the new tabs for Visibility/Options/Find. - the move OpenGL - the alpha layers (the jello look) are great for switching power supplies and suchlike - constraint manager integration for all constraints Bad points: - no backwards compatibility !! - still no use of dual processors >>> "Michael Catrambone" <Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx> 26/06/2007 10:07 a.m. >>> Richard, The New Icons and Toolbar look is the way the GUI is going to look going forward and it is not related to Windows Vista or OpenGL. It the look kind of grows on you once you start using it. Thanks, Michael Catrambone Distinguished Engineer UTStarcom, Inc. Phone: 847-631-9521 Email: Michael.Catrambone@xxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.utstar.com -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of richard moffat Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:54 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: SPB 16.0 is available for download... Can someone pleeease reassure me that the new icons and toolbar look is due to Vista, or some weird skin setting? >>> "Mike Finczak" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 26/06/2007 3:09 a.m. >>> Austin, Can't say at this point. Will let you know if it gives me a tummy ache. Regards, Mike Finczak CopperCAD Design www.CopperCAD.com 905-488-8958 -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin Franklin Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:58 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: SPB 16.0 is available for download... Hi Mike, Is "J E L L O" good or bad? Regards, Austin > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike Finczak > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:48 AM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: SPB 16.0 is available for download... > > > Austin, > > My first visual impression of version 16.0 is.... > > J E L L O > > ( See through planes and clines ) > ( Screenshot attached ) > > > Regards, > Mike Finczak > CopperCAD Design > www.CopperCAD.com > 905-488-8958 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Austin > Franklin > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 6:41 PM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] SPB 16.0 is available for download... > > FYI, SPB 16 is available for download... > > Now that it's released, can the beta testers give us some insight into > the new features and how well the new software works? > > Regards, > > Austin > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe/unsubscribe: > Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe > > To view the archives of this list go to > http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ > > Problems or Questions: > Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. 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