Hey Gerry, Thanks for the reply. Of course AMD has Expert licenses (the Brinks truck delivers to Cadence regularly!). I'm going to try the schematic package driven method first. Regards, Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Meier Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:58 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Relative prop delay Gary, Pin delays can only be used in "Allegro Expert" and can be imported with a .CSV file. But you must work in expert , if you adjust these nets in "performance" the pin delay will not be calculated. Regards, Gerry ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:44 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Relative prop delay Hey guys, It has reached the point where I have to consider the package length when matching some nets. I am using Relative Propagation Delay in CM, and was wondering if anyone knows how to include the package lengths? I thought maybe the Pin Delay columns, but they are grayed out. Any ideas? Regards, Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Fort Collins, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx This correspondence and any attachments are considered confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Freedom CAD Services, Inc. immediately by either replying to this message or by sending an email to operations@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; please destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you.