[PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems

MessageGeorge,

I was out yesterday (don't ask!), so I'm just now getting to your response.

Yes I'm on W2K, 15.2.  I double click to load it into Pad_Designer.  Once in
, I can File -> Open and load it in this way.

Anyhow, I think I'll get IT to change me to XP Pro.  Hopefully that will
solve it.  Our local support guy is out for the holidays, I think he has the
answer for this one.

Thanks,

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Longmont, Colorado


  -----Original Message-----
  From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 4:25 PM
  To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems



  Ahhhh...  (A light comes on)  I didn't realize you were double-clicking to
start it.  What platform/OS version are you on?

  If windoze:
    a.. It could be an issue with the windows explorer
      a.. Have you tried opening up a command window (DOS window) and
manually running it? (i.e. "pad_designer 123456789_mod.pad")
      b.. Have you tried using "File > Open" from inside pad_designer?
      c.. If it doesn't even start pad_designer, is the "File Types"
pointing to a valid "pad_designer" and not one in an installation that no
longer exists?  Here's my current "Open" action command line:
"J:\Apps\edatools\psd\15.2d\tools\pcb\bin\pad_designer.exe" "%1"
  If not:
    a.. Ain't got a clue
  Not that I can replicate the problem, I can double-click
"via22c14t125.pad" in the explorer and it just complains that it can't
create the journal file (read only directory) and starts up.  I'm on XP Pro.
  --
  George Patrick
  Tektronix, Inc.
  Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
  P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
  Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
  Phone: 503-627-5272         Fax: 503-627-5587
  http://www.tektronix.com    http://www.pcb-designer.com

  It's my opinion, not Tektronix'

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 14:52
    To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems


    Hi Diane,

    Well, it sounds like I shouldn't be having the problem that I'm having!
But...

    I can copy any existing padstack, name it "123456789.pad", and it *will
not* load into "Pad_Designer" by double clicking it.  If I name the copy
"12345678.pad", it *will* load in.

    Hey Cadence guys, any clue?  I guess it's time for an ISR.

    Thanks for your time Diane!
    Gary E. MacIndoe
    PCB Design Engineer
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Longmont, Colorado


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dickoff, Diane J [mailto:diane.j.dickoff@xxxxxxxxx]
      Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:41 PM
      To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems


      Note: Flash and symbol shape names are restricted to 18 characters in
v14.2

      In 15.0 Allegro is being modified to allow net and pad stack name
lengths

      of up to 256 characters. In 14.0 component symbol, device, and package

      names were already modified in the same manner.

      According to sourcelink?..Diane






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      From: Jelena Larsen [mailto:jelenal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
      Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:11 PM
      To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems



      Greetings,



      Could this be a character length issue?  Looks like anything beyond 8
characters does not work for you with the padstack in question.



      Jelena Larsen






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      From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
      Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:59 PM
      To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems



      Shirley,



      You've hit on something here.  When I rename the "r11x44_mod" to
"r11x44m" or "r11x44mo", it will load into "Pad_Designer".  For some strange
reason, adding that extra "d" (to make "r11x44mod"), causes it to not load.



      To make it an even stranger situation, "r11x44-m" and "r11x44_m" will
also load, but *not* "r11x44-mo" nor "r11x44_mo" (it just doesn't like that
third added character?!?).



      Gary E. MacIndoe
      PCB Design Engineer
      Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
      Longmont, Colorado

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Bolman, Shirley H [mailto:shirley.h.bolman@xxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:45 AM
        To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems

        Richard

        Have you tried to save a new padstack as r11x44m instead of _mod?

        the _mod really shouldn't be a problem. I also believe that where
the tool

        is saving the padstack to may not be where allegro is looking for
the padstacks.



        Shirley




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        From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
        Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:31 AM
        To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems

        Richard,



        No, there is no flash involved.  It is a pure rectangular SMT pad
with the soldermask modified.



        Gary E. MacIndoe
        PCB Design Engineer
        Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
        Longmont, Colorado

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Weinberg, Richard (Richard) [mailto:rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx]
          Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:03 AM
          To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems

          I?ve managed to clear a few more cob webs. The problem showed up
when I loaded a flash in Allegro. Does this pad stack have a flash? Try to
look at it.



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          -----Original Message-----
          From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
          Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:56 PM
          To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems



          Thanks Richard.  This padstack is in the same directory with
others that I have no problem loading into the padstack editor (they don't
have the "_mod" at the end).



          Gary E. MacIndoe
          PCB Design Engineer
          Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Longmont, Colorado

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Weinberg, Richard (Richard) [mailto:rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx]
            Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:17 AM
            To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems

            I?ve seen this before. I?m not sure but, check if there are any
spaces in any of the directory names in the total path.



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                            systems

              agere                             76 Sandy Point Road

                                                                Yarmouth,
Maine 04096

                                    USA



            Richard Weinberg              Tel: 207 846 4539

            Applications Engineer                 rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx

                        ReferenceDesigns

                  ___________________________________________________





            -----Original Message-----
            From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
            Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:03 PM
            To: Allegro Forum
            Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Pad designer editor problems



            Hey guys,



            Anyone see this while trying to edit a padstack?  I have a
padstack that I modified from another one with "_mod" at the end (i.e. the
padstack is named "r11x44_mod.pad").  Could it be the "_"?  I tried
replacing the "_" with a "-", then taking it out altogether, same results.
Only when I remove the "mod", can I edit the padstack!  I can edit ones
without the "_mod" all I want.



            Thanks for any replies!











            Gary E. MacIndoe
            PCB Design Engineer
            Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
            Longmont, Colorado

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