[PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration

Folks,

Thanks to everyone who replied.

I now have the Allegro ODB++ Inside translator executing with pre-configured 
options from a menu pick (special thanks to Dave Elder for the skill snippet). 
I had some issues to resolve with paths and undefined variables, also had to 
generate extract data via valor_ext.il prior to executing the ODB++ output.

Dave

> 
> From: "Douglas Stanley" <dstanley@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2008/02/11 Mon PM 12:07:26 CST
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration
> 
> If you have the Valor tools, the preferred method for translating
> Allegro data is to use the built-in translator inside of Valor's tool -
> not Allegro's ODB++ Inside. The code on Valor's side is updated much
> more often while the Allegro side is outdated the moment you get it. I'm
> not saying the Allegro translator doesn't work, but many have been the
> times the ODB++ Inside didn't translate the database correctly, while
> Valor's worked fine.
>  
> I look at ODB++ Inside as more of a marketing tool than anything else.
>  
>  
> Douglas G. Stanley
> PC Board Designer, Sr. Staff
> dstanley@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> (949) 926-5889
>  
> 
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> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> Catrambone
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:51 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> 
> Randy,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to disagree with you.  I have used both the translator in Valor
> as well as the OBD++ Inside that is part of Allegro, after you download
> it from Valor.   The actually ODB++ Inside (brd2odb) translator was
> jointly created by both Cadence and Valor, I think it is mostly Valor
> code.  If you have a problem you can get support directly from Valor and
> they engage with Cadence when required.
> 
>  
> 
> We all have our own personal preferences and I would rather use the
> ODB++ Inside (brd2odb) instead of having going into to Valor to create
> the files.  Don't get me wrong, all translators have the share of
> problems but any problems will exist whether it ran inside of Valor or
> externally using ODB++ Inside (brd2odb).
> 
>  
> 
> Dave,
> 
>  
> 
> To follow-up with your "command not found" issue, the ODB++ Inside
> (brd2odb) needs to be downloaded for the Valor web site and installed
> separately from the Cadence tools.  The best way to get it or check to
> see if it is already installed is to start Allegro then select File >
> Export > ODB++ Inside and just click Yes from the confirmer window to
> open up the web page where it can be downloaded for Valor.
> 
>  
> 
> The exactly URL is:
> http://www.valor.com/en/Products/ODBpp/Cadence%20Allegro_Inside%20Packag
> e.aspx
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Michael Catrambone
> UTStarcom, Inc.
> 
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> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Randy Dawson
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:58 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration
> 
>  
> 
> Dave,
> 
> We did this in Valor class, and the best results were not using the
> translator at all.
> 
> Go straight to Valor Enterprise 3000, and import the file, their
> translators work better than any of the vendor supplied ones.
> 
> I love that netlist check tool, saved my bacon a number of times(esp.
> plane checks).  Now I work for somebody that cant afford that stuff,
> whats your take on GerbTool, and CAM350?
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> 
> > From: dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx
> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration
> > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:32:04 -0600
> > 
> > Dave,
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > I'll mess around with it a bit to see if I can get the desired
> results.
> > 
> > I did read some of the command line info (Appendix A, I think), but
> when I
> > entered "brd2odb" on the command line I got "command not found"
> message.
> > I'll try putting the command into skill and running (16.01 "L" on XP).
> > 
> > Dave Schaefer
> > dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Elder
> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:56 PM
> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ODB++ Configuration
> > 
> > Hi Dave,
> > 
> > Use the brd2odb command line utility. Most of the parameters are 
> > configurable.
> > 
> > This is how I run it from within Skill:
> > sprintf(cmd, "brd2odb -a2l -c a -jn %s -v14_thermals -s all -sf -sp-xu
> 
> > mm -read_sqa no %s\\%s.brd", bdName, getWorkingDir(), bdName)
> > axlRunBatchDBProgram("brd2odb", cmd, ?noUnload t, ?silent t,
> ?noProgress t)
> > 
> > See C:\Valor\ODB++Inside\brd2odb.pdf
> > 
> > Cheers, Dave
> > 
> > Dave Schaefer wrote, On 8/02/2008 11:57 a.m.:
> > > Have started using ODB++ data for fabrication, manufacturing, and
> test.
> > > I'd like to set up ODB++ Inside to execute with a standard set of
> > parameters from a menu pick.
> > >
> > > Are ODB++ Inside default settings controlled by a configurable file?
> > > Can I pass variables (design name) to ODB++ export?
> > > Any other tips / comments?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Schaefer
> > > dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx
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