[PCB_FORUM] Re: Metric database

  • From: "Gary MacIndoe" <gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx>
  • To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:09:13 -0700

Thanks again Bobby.

Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Longmont, Colorado


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mosley, Bobby [mailto:bobby.mosley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:57 PM
  To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
  Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Metric database


  They average between .1 mm (4 mil) up to 3 mm (118 mil), anything larger I
look at using fill to make the connections.  You do get a warning if the
artwork accuracy is not one place higher than the data base.

  Bobby Mosley CID
  503 685-3209
  360 901-1573
  bobby.mosley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:43 PM
    To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Metric database


    Thanks for the response Bobby.  So you set up your database in
Millimeters with an accuracy of 3, sometimes 4?  So what are the typical
trace widths you work with, .075, .100?

    Thanks again.

    Gary E. MacIndoe
    PCB Design Engineer
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Longmont, Colorado


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mosley, Bobby [mailto:bobby.mosley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
      Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:29 PM
      To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
      Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Metric database


      We do all our designs in metric.

      Bobby Mosley CID
      503 685-3209
      360 901-1573
      bobby.mosley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx]
        Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:45 PM
        To: Allegro Forum
        Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Metric database


        Ok, now for something completely different...

        Has anyone set up a design in metric, and sent it out to Fab?  Some
questions:

        -  Did you set the "User Units" to Millimeter or Microns?
        We use Millimeter
        -  What did you set the "Accuracy" to? (maybe 3 for Millimeter, 0
for Microns?)
        3 places on most designs, for designs with dense BGA's we use 4 (not
sure why we just do)
        -  How about the Artwork Parameters, "Output units" can only be set
to Inches or Millimeters?
        4 places in Millimeters.
        -  Anything else about working and creating output in a Metric
database I should know about?
        Nothing comes to mind, it does take a while to wrap your brain
around it.

        I have started with the database set up in Microns in order to have
whole number trace widths (75 and 100).  If I switch to a Millimeter
database, the trace widths become .075 and .100 (I guess I could handle the
less than whole numbers).

        Anybody have any suggestions about this?

        Thanks for any help!
        Gary E. MacIndoe
        PCB Design Engineer
        Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
        Longmont, Colorado


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