[PCB_FORUM] Re: Intelligent Dual Footprints 15.x

Am I hearing that the clip command may be the easiest way to do this? Or is 
there a way to pull all the symbols in at one time with ref des assigned to 
each individule component? I have done the clip several times but seems to me 
there should be an easier way to do this. I just can't find any info on Modules 
and 3rd party tools. 
This is also something I want to do with power supplies. Design for re-use.
Thanks
Steve

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> I have used modules several times, but only when using the Concept HDL 
> front end. Modules work great for placing a common circuit on several 
> different boards and the upper-level schematic symbol just displays the 
> interface signals to that circuitry. Each footprint that is place on the 
> board within the module will have a unique reference designator which 
> you can designate. Such as M1_R1, M1_C1, ets... Module two would have 
> M2_R1, M2_C1, etc.... 
> But like I said, I've only performed this using Concept HDL into Allegro 
> Performance. Email me directly if you require further assistance. 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer: 
> (919) 484-2963 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kevin McCowan [mailto:kmccowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:44 AM 
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Intelligent Dual Footprints 15.x 
> 
> This is the point I am trying to make. A module is just like a small 
> circuit board, if I am not mistaken. You still have the individual 
> components so your placement file would show each one. Once you 
> import it it acts like you placed and routed each component as 
> you normally would. 
> It is not a "symbol" per se. It is a subassembly. 
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> gnieski, mike wrote: 
> > Isnt another issue on the assembly end? If you have one symbol 
> representing 
> > a bundle of parts 
> > How can you export the pick and place data to be used at assembly? 
> Centroid 
> > data usually comes 
> > From the place bound of each part or by adding body center. Just 
> another 
> > thing to think about. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Mike 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Kevin McCowan [mailto:kmccowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:45 AM 
> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Intelligent Dual Footprints 15.x 
> > 
> > 
> > But that makes no sense. 
> > If you have the footprint right why cannot you assign a refdes to the 
> > allegro symbol? Why should allegro care what tool the netlist came 
> from once 
> > it is imported? It would be like placing a spare component and then 
> once the 
> > netlist is in assigning the refdes. I could be wrong, but still, it 
> does not 
> > add up to me. 
> > 
> > Somebody try it, please and let us know. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Kevin McCowan 
> > Sr. PCB Designer 
> > TSI Telsys 
> > 
> > Jean Bratton wrote: 
> > 
> >>Yes it is, but it only works with Concept and Capture. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> >>-- 
> >> 
> >>*From:* george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >>[mailto:george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> >>*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:33 AM 
> >>*To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >>*Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Re: Intelligent Dual Footprints 15.x 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>This is a perfect use for a module. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>I don't know if you can do this without Concept-HDL, though. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>-- 
> >>/George Patrick/ 
> >>*Tektronix, Inc.* 
> >>Central Engineering, PCB Design Group 
> >>P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 
> >>Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 
> >>Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 
> >>http://www.tektronix.com 
> >>http://www.pcb-designer.com 
> >> 
> >>/It's *_my_* opinion, not Tektronix'/ 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> *From:* Design1955@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:design1955@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2004 17:23 
> >> *To:* icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> *Subject:* [PCB_FORUM] Intelligent Dual Footprints 15.x 
> >> 
> >> I have been asked to create a footprint containing the following 
> >> information: 
> >> 
> >> A bga containing all of it's fan-out recommended by the spec. 
> >> 
> >> all of it's supporting decoupling caps, connected per the EE's 
> >>rules. 
> >> 
> >> So every time I place this component it will have the particular 
> BGA 
> >> and the supporting caps placed and also routed to the power and 
> >> ground pins per the schematic. 
> >> 
> >> I am using 15.2 and VueLogic front end. 
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know if there is a way to make this work as a complete 
> >> intelligent footprint you placing it as a block of components with 
> >> routing? 
> >> 
> >> Thanks 
> >> 
> >> Steve 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
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