Another draw back other than performance with SKILL vs. PERL, is that PERL routines frequently have to be updated with each cadence release with SKILL routine it is the opposite it is rare you need to change the code from release to release. -----Original Message----- From: george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:39 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004: SKILL SIG, OpenSKILL Initiative I know and use perl regularly, including the Tk module. But... If I create a program in perl, and the same program in SKILL, the SKILL one runs about 2x faster. Unless it is playing with the board graphics (drawing lines and such) in which case it is 4-6x faster. I don't need SKILL, unless I want to be fast..... 'enuf said :) -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, PCB Design Group P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587 http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com It's my opinion, not Tektronix' -----Original Message----- From: Mitch S. Morey [mailto:cadpro2k@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 08:57 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: ICU2004: SKILL SIG, OpenSKILL Initiative George, You forgot the most important thing... you DON'T need SKILL. If you have a perl developer, he can do incredible things with the tool. Want an advocate? Look up Devin Barret (spelling might be wrong). He's done incredible things with perl, tkl, TK, whatever, outside of SKILL. Sure, SKILL works, but perl, especially, is incredible with Allegro. Now, is that open source enough? Any perl developers out there that want to contribute? Just a thought... back to my board. Mitch > David: > I think it should be noted that an open-source site is going to be useless > unless Cadence releases SKILL to public domain, including some kind of > reasonably priced operating environment OUTSIDE of Cadence tools and > better > documentation. (snip) ----------------------------------------- Stay ahead of the information curve. Receive PCB news and jobs on your desktop daily. Subscribe today to the PCB CafeNews newsletter. [ http://www10.pcbcafe.com/nl/newsletter_subscribe.php ] It's informative and essential. ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at http://www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at http://www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at http://www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------