[PCB_FORUM] Re: Globally change to alt symbol across board (SUMMARY)

No problem Gary.
Your input is valued!
Just thout it was a version thing.

Sorry, but I sent this back in another subject (pdf search by mistake).
Hello all,
Almost got it working!
I can not get "alt sym" selection for RMB for more than one part at a time.
BUT...I found that I can move temp group of parts, select an origin point, then type "pop alt symbol" in Allegro command line. 
This can be mappd to a hot key or added into a script!!!!

PROBLEM!!!
This does NOT work if I have some parts on top and some on the bottom.
I tried Move Symbol by symtype, select origin point, type pop alt symbol....but nothing happens! 

This would be a great fix.
Question 1: Can any of you access RMB "alt sym" while moving a group of symbols or all by symtype? 
If so, what version?
Question 2: Can anyone think of anything I can do to get this to work with parts on the top and bottom. Then I could select by symtype to do all of one type in a design. 

If not, my only options are:
1. Export placement file, manipulate text file components and symtype, delete all components to be replaced by alt sym, then import placement file. 
OR
2. Move temp group (select all of this symtype on top side), select origin point, type pop alt symbol, then place at same origin point. 
Then repeat for bottom side.
3. The "update symbols" will not work for me because I do not simply want to "refresh" the component. 
I can not rename the library part (librarian permission only).
No option to select another footprint to refesh/ update to. (In v15.1)

Thanks again for all of your replies!
Lots of good input.
Mark

Macindoe, Gary wrote:


Hey Mark,

Oooooooops!!

I'm sorry, but I thought I learned over the years not to assume!
We don't have any symbols in our library set up with alternates, so I
was not able to test it out completely, and *assumed* that if the
symbols
were set up with an alternate symbol, that you could change all of them
at once.  Guess I should have stayed out of this one!

Regards,


Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices
Longmont, Colorado

amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

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Hello again Gary,
Is this another 15.1 issue?
I could not get this to work.
Steps 1-3 work fine.
But step 4 does not.
I could not get RMB "alt sym" selection when moving symbol  by
"symtype".
I tried with move by pin 1, user pick, origin and with / without
"stretch"

Also, I have never been able to select "alt sym" when using temp group.

What am I missing?

Thanks again for your input!
Mark
Macindoe, Gary wrote:


Hey Mark,

So did you get my last post?  Did you ever get the searchable PDF to
work?

So, your latest problem is no big thing! Simply follow the steps below:

1) Get in the Move command

2) In the Find tab at right, in the "Find Buy Name" field, pull-down to
"Symtype", then click the More button.

3) In the window that comes up, choose the symbol name (i.e. "0603"),
then click OK (all of the chosen symbols in your design will

highlight).

4) Now, click on a reference point (all of the symbols are "picked

up"),

then RMB to "Alt Symbol", then click back on the reference point to set
all of the symbols down in their original location.


This will only work if you want *all* of a particular symbol type
changed to the alternate symbol.  If not, you could at least get into
the Move command, RMB to Temp Group, select all symbols you want with a
click, box or a combination of the two, then RMB to Complete, RMB again
to Alt Symbol, then put them down where they were.

Good luck!


Gary E. MacIndoe
PCB Design Engineer
Advanced Micro Devices
Longmont, Colorado

amd.com
gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx

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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:33 PM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Globally change to alt symbol across board
Can I change all of my 500 relays to an alternate symbol across the whole board? 
The only way I can find to do it is thru delete / manual place or Move

/

select alt sym the place back down.
Very very time consuming concidering this can not be done in "stretch
mode".
All my parts are on a 1 mil grid.

HELP!

Thanks,
Mark


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