[PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerbers to placement file

Thanks gary...  know anyone that does PCB translations?  

Specifically Allegro to Expedition and Allegro to Pads.  



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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerbers to placement file

Elgris Technologies, Inc is still here with
the schematic translation tools and services.
Can translate to ConceptHDL, OrCAD or between the two.
http://www.elgris.com 

--- Gene Carman <gcarman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I don't have an answer...  but in this world of
> international companies
> and shared IP...  this is an ongoing problem.  I
> used to do reference
> designs at my last company and the biggest issue was
> translating the
> data to some other CAD tool.  
> 
> It appears that this has become a bigger problem
> over the years...  in
> the past there were service bureaus that did
> translations... but the
> last time I checked, RSI was sold to Mentor and they
> only now do
> translations into Mentor products.  
> 
> It seems to me that the major EDA companies are
> doing what they can to
> be quite exclusive...  not allowing data
> translation.  
> 
> So are there still service bureaus available that
> will translate?  And
> what about the tools themselves...  why are we
> moving to a situation
> where X will not translate to Y?  
> 
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> Behalf Of Dharma
> Kemp-Bresett
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerbers to placement file
> 
> Hi Mitch,
> At this point we are just trying to find out what
> our options are.....
> In
> other words "How doable is this?"  So far I have
> seen some great
> suggestions
> both here and elsewhere...some particularly time
> consuming, some
> particularly expensive but all welcome. After all
> the best decision is a
> well informed one.....
> Thanks,
> Dharma 
> 
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> Behalf Of Mitch S. Morey
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:07 PM
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> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerbers to placement file
> 
> Dharma,
> 
> I hope you've given your customer a premilinary
> quote for this task. I
> can
> forsee this turning into a HUGE job, and the
> customer might be floored
> when
> he/she gets the final bill. To read in the gerbers,
> make dummy symbols
> for
> any parts you might not have, place symols, etc.
> could be a couple weeks
> to
> get right. Do you have an assembly print to look at?
> How would you
> determine
> the difference between 3 - 2 pin headers, and 1 -
> 2x6 pin header, for
> instance? Bit, if you're getting time-n-material for
> this job, could be
> a
> money maker... But, I don't think it will be (just
> my opinion).
> 
> Good day.
> Mitch
> 
> > Hi Jerry,
> > No flame here... We have a customer who is asking
> this of us and we 
> > are trying to find the best solution. Therefore I
> am looking for ALL 
> > possible solutions.... if allegro does the trick
> then so be it. If its
> 
> > gerbtool or gcprevue or valor that works too. :-)
> Dharma
> >
> > KAW/USA Ltd.
> > 39 Simon Street, #4
> > Nashua, NH 03060
> > 603-886-8711 x212
> > 603-881-8763 fax
> 
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