Randy, We didn't have enough SPECCTRA papers to make a parallel track. I'd be happy to discuss this with you off-line, my contact info is below. Todd. Todd Westerhoff High Speed Design Group Manager Cisco Systems 1414 Massachusetts Ave - Boxboro, MA - 01719 email:twesterh@xxxxxxxxx ph: 978-936-2149 ============================================ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:25 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: CDNLive! Conference Todd, My only question is that if you had Specctra papers, why not position them in a parallel track to APD/Package stuff. Then based on the abstracts, the users could decide on their relative importance/goodness..... . Regards, Randy Bye -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Todd Westerhoff (twesterh) Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:59 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: CDNLive! Conference Randy, Thanks for your question. It's difficult for me to comment on all the abstracts we received, as not all of them were accepted for the conference. So - on the subject of SPECCTRA, let simply say that we received very, very few papers, which weren't addressing current design issues (I'm being deliberately vague). Therefore, unfortunately, there isn't a paper on SPECCTRA currently scheduled for the conference. We did solicit material from Cadence R&D and receive a number of good papers on a collection of topics. As for packaging design, we see the increase in signal speeds making this a more important issue. Of course, the packaging folk have thought this all along - and the systems folks are starting to agree. We're seeing more systems designs where board level routing has to accommodate decisions made at the IC/package design level, and where making tradeoffs between the die/package/PCB design is becoming critically important. I would have liked to run two parallel tracks for SPB for more than just Tuesday afternoon as well - we didn't have the papers to support it. As for the Fun Night, I'm with you, but that's Cadence's call. Tuesday used to be "all you can drive" night until Midnight at the Malibu Grand Prix in Redwood City - we could organize a group and cut out after the technology demonstrations ... (I'm not buying, though). Todd . Todd Westerhoff High Speed Design Group Manager Cisco Systems 1414 Massachusetts Ave - Boxboro, MA - 01719 email:twesterh@xxxxxxxxx ph: 978-936-2149 ============================================ "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bye, Randy W Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:41 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: CDNLive! Conference Todd and Mike, As far as I can tell there is no Specctra/Auto-route content at all. In the past there was at least 1/2 day of content for Specctra alone. Did you receive any auto-route/Specctra abstracts? Did you solicit Cadence R&D for Specctra papers? In the past APD/package sessions have been very poorly attended when compared to all other tracks. Based on prior year's statistics, it seems inefficient to offer so much APD/Package material as compared with the available PCB sessions. Providing only one day of content that is directly geared toward PCB designers is significantly less than what has been available other years. I would agree that the SI papers that are being presented on Wednesday are applicable to PCB designers, but in the past there were normally at least 2 full PCB tracks on Tuesday and Wednesday. The CDNLive schedule has only 1 pcb track offered each day. Also, why isn't training being offered on Sunday? Many folks that fly in like to take advantage of Saturday night stay-over price breaks and then attend training sessions on Sunday. Finally, last and definitely least important, what happened to Cadence Fun Night???? It was my understanding that Cadence Fun Night would be reinstated with the CDNLive event. My 2cents..... Randy Bye ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. 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