IMHO all CAD,ECAD systems have their faults. Just remember a good design depends on the designer not the tool. Jerry Schwartz -----Original Message----- From: Paul Gingras [mailto:paul@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:58 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Bugs in Allegro 15.2 Yup, that's why Cadence has the partnership and direct I/F into Valor. -----Original Message----- From: chris.ball@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:chris.ball@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:37 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Bugs in Allegro 15.2 In my opinion, if you can't trust the output of your ECAD system: you're using a lousy ECAD system you're ignoring the errors it's reporting you haven't set it up correctly some combination of the above Just my opinion... "Paul Gingras" <paul@xxxxxxx> @ VALSMTP To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: @VALSMTP cc: Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Bugs in Allegro 03/16/2005 08:28 AM 15.2 Please respond to icu-pcb-forum In my opinion and again this is only my opinion because this has happen to us in much earlier releases of Allegro. Anyone who chooses to proceed to fab without running the design thru Valor or insuring that the fab vendor of choice runs the layout thru Valor does so at his or her own risk. Paul Gingras KAW 39 Simon St. Bldg. 4 Nashua, NH 03060 603 886 8711 x200 -----Original Message----- From: Vivekananda R K - CTD, Chennai [mailto:vivekanandark@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:44 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Bugs in Allegro 15.2 Hi, One of the Npth hole was shorted to the plane(Positive plane). We have provided Route and via keepout also we setted the pin property to 20 mil over size.But still it is shorting to the plane in one layer and rest of the layers getting 20 mil clearence . Also not indicating the DRC.Some time it is happening with vias also. Why this problem coming.How we can fix this problem?Is Any body get experienced in to this problem, pls advice the way of checking techniques for this issue. Regards K.vivek Pcb Designer Hcl Technologies. Chennai. India. DISCLAIMER This message and any attachment(s) contained here are information that is confidential, proprietary to HCL Technologies and its customers. Contents may be privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the individual or the entity it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, forward, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. 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