I've tried that several times with no results. Seems like there should be someway to extract this information from the database. Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer: Cary, NC - (919) 466-1596 -----Original Message----- From: Moore, Blake [mailto:Blake.Moore@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:49 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Allegro 15.1 Finding out of date dynamic shapes I think all you have to do is click setup, drawing options, status, and update to smooth. _____ From: J Wages [mailto:jwages@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:19 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Allegro 15.1 Finding out of date dynamic shapes I seem to remember a thread discussion about this, but did not save them. I have an out of date shape on my layout and cannot create artwork. Is there a way to find the out of date shape? Thanx in advance. Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer: Cary, NC - (919) 466-1596