In message <4ff79b7105rh.lists@xxxxxxxxxx> Russell Hafter - Lists <rh.lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 01 Nov, Martin Wuerthner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> In message <4ff77b58d9dhwild@xxxxxxxxxxxx> David H Wild >> <dhwild@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> In article <4ff76911aarh.lists@xxxxxxxxxx>, Russell >>> Hafter - Lists <rh.lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> Why would I want to do that???? >>>>> When you want to show someone, probably a customer, >>>>> how a document will look without needing to have >>>>> exact text. >>>> If I were the customer, I would absolutely want to see >>>> the thing with my real text in it. The most common >>>> question for me is whether the text will fit into the >>>> space available. >>> I hink that you are still missing the point slightly. >>> You might want to show someone what your design of >>> brochure, for instance, would look like - even before >>> there is any real text to show. >> Precisely. The point is that you might want to discuss >> the design with someone and you will find it difficult to >> do that if you use real text. One of the web sites that >> discuss lorem ipsum was set up by a web designer after a >> website design meeting was a complete desaster because he >> had put in some real example text and then showed the >> design to managers and marketing people. Nobody discussed >> the design at all, everyone was just discussing the >> contents no matter how many times he pointed out that the >> text was immaterial and just an example. > Amazing!! > I can see the point of a design with text only, and blanks > instead of graphics, but not the other way round! That is old school thinking from a time before low cost printing became broadly available and manipulating and printing of graphics costed a fortune. The modern way is the more intuitive, natural one. Also, because the high quality of (output from) design(software) people tend to take a good design for granted and have the tendency to focus on textcontent. The focus can be drawn back to the design by using LI-text. If you don't or won't see that, so be it. regards Ike Busser Busser & Busser facility management Kruidenlaan 112 5803 BG Venray - The Netherlands ------------------------------------------------------------ To change, suspend or cancel your subscription go to //www.freelists.org/list/icon-users ------------------------------------------------------------