Les, I have to agree. I see that day coming as well. As someone who works for voc rehab in Maryland recommending technology, I'm waiting for the price to see what I think. My wife saw how much I liked the Braille Plus, and bought it for me. I'm sad to say I only recommended 3 since the device was released for various reasons. I have recommended one iPod touch and an external bluetooth keyboard. I really think this is the way the market will eventually go. Having said that, I can't wait to get my hands on the Orion. Lou On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 02:28:52 -0400, Les Kriegler wrote: >Hi Richard, > >Given the way the accessibility market works, you can forget about further >development of the Braille Plus. I expressed my concerns about this when >the Orion was announced. But we blind people are largely responsible for >this, in my opinion. As soon as a product is announced, you see people >droolling to get their hands on the latest and greatest. Then those same >consumers will go to their state VR reps and ask for what they think they >want and need to be purchased. Now, before anybody jumps down my throat, I >know some of you by your own equipment and if you decide to purchase this >with your money, that's fine. But I believe the majority of individuals >have someone covering their costs, be at family members, state rehab, etc. >So we as a group have ourselves to blame for much of what happens. There's >no money made in software development. The cycle is to put a product out >there for a few years, put out a couple of relatively minor updates, and >then it's on to something else. This is particularly the case in the >notetaker market. But the day of reckoning is coming, as voc rehab will at >some point face cuts as everyone else has, and fiscally, these overpriced >devices will start to take a hit. It can't happen soon enough, in my >opinion. > >Les > >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Fiorello >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:38 PM >To: icon-discuss >Subject: [icon Discussions] orion > >Hi list; >Haven't seen an Orion but from the information provided it does much >more than I want or need. Long ago gave up on gps or cell phone and >purchased other divices that did the job. The built in text recognition >is nice but I really don't need it. I'd really love! a continued >braille plus with some of the kinks worked out. Checked out the braille >note list and they didn't sound at all positive. The folks on the hims >list are a very up beat positive group and their divice might be more of >what I want but unfortunately it won't support nls and their primary >focus seems to be on the unit with a built in braille display like the >Orion. I like braille in its place but 18 cells requires lots of >scrolling and doesn't do good things to the price. >I guess I will just have to put my thinking cap on and see what comes. >-- >richard >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >related to LevelStar or APH then consider sending your message to >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. > >If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to >LevelStar or APH then consider sending your message to >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html