HI Michael, Yes, I did. I meant to mention that. Thanks though, Richard --- -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:49 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Think Outside Sierra and the Braille+ I hate to ask, but did you reset the Braille plus and then try again? I imagine you probably did though. Michael -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:35 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Think Outside Sierra and the Braille+ OK, before I throw the Think Outside Keyboard against the wall, does anyone have a sure-fired way to get the two devices to see each other and actually work? I had it working twice. Then, nothing. I tried every combination I could think of in the order I turned each one on, etc. I finally removed the Think Outside from the Bluetooth list on the Braille+. I then turned them both off. I even took the battery out of the keyboard and let it sit for a while. I turned the braille+ back on. I put the battery in the keyboard and closed the sliders that lock the keyboard in place and supposedly turn it on. No lights were flashing, so I held in the button until the green light was flashing to say it was in discovery mode. I opened the Bluetooth control panel on the Braille+ and selected find devices. It came back with an empty list. I tried holding the button in on the keyboard for a couple of seconds as Michael Jones had suggested I do. Nothing. I tried several times with different timing, order in which I did things, etc. At this point, I'm hoping it isn't too late to get a refund on the keyboard from the place I bought it. So, unless someone has dealt with this kind of frustration and found a way around it, the idea of using a Bluetooth keyboard has lost its luster. Thanks, Richard ---