[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys

Thank you for what you said in this message.  Rehab people should be leaving it 
up to the cliant as to what notetaker works best for them (I hate it when 
sighted people tell me what works best for me) and you're right, we've never 
seen a unit that can do so much at this price point before.  I mean, what do 
people want from a notetaker?  If you want to compare the Braille+ to a Braille 
'n Speak, don't, that's like comparing a model A Ford to a 2008 Mustang. If you 
don't like the Braille+, send it back and purchase a Braille 'n Speak, we still 
have them and they are on clearance.  We're marketing them as a person's first 
notetaker now because of the technology, but hey, if you like the way the keys 
work, like the spacing, like the sound they either do or don't make, please, 
purchase a Braille 'n Speak while we still have them. Here's the info from the 
APH Flea Market Page:

1-07320-01 
Braille 'n Speak Scholar Talking PDA 
$1249.00 
$375.00  
1-07317-00 
Braille 'n Speak Imagewriter Cable 
$32.00 
$20.00  
1-07318-00 
Braille 'n Speak Serial Interface Cable 
$33.00 
$15.00  



>>> ritalharrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/17/08 05:46AM >>>
I find it interesting to see all of the complaints going back and forth
on this list, concerning the BP.

Yes, there are bugs in the unit, as there are with any new product.
However, where have we seen anything close to what we all have been
asking for as Blind and Visually Impaired individuals...

To have access to email, music, books, a recorder, a Braille Notetaker,
the internet, and much more, with the portability at the fraction of the
cost of a Braille Note Taker...

I find the keyboard layout to be easier to work with, than I originally
thought, when I first received the BP.  As any new device, you can
adjust with time and practice.  When there is Braille support, this, in
my mind, will be the "perfect" package.

I would personally like to take this opportunity to thank the folks who
are working to make this device, the product that we have all been
asking for, for many years.  I greatly appreciate this awesome
technology, and I do hope that the people in the positions of making
decisions on buying this product for clients, don't deny others from
receiving this great tool, because of their own personal view points.
To withhold advancements in technology would be unfortunate and very
disappointing...



 

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From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:33 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys


I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the design
and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change.  It is not
possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or accurately
as on most Braille keyboards.  And, I don't know what the Braille
keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that I
have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and poorly
made.  I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on any
other Braille device in a long time.  And, I cannot believe that
this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed in
such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has been
said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right place
the keys won't register correctly or at all.

I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it back
to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more, but
I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to go
to Colorado to get that done.  The bottom line is that the material
used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed,
and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed. 
Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the
unit.  The problem is that the current design is not any place close
to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a
Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they were
using a Perkins Braillewriter.


 



David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795  Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100


>>> richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>>
Hi,
It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard.  At least, none of
the
keyboards I've used.
 
And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow someone
to be that
picky.
 
I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters
program and
not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of a
slate and
stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus.
 
So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all this
out for
yourself.  You won't be sorry you did.
 
Richard
 

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From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
keys



Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I
remember
having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I was
a
special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy - she
hated the
"click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a set of keys
that
would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was
trying to
take notes from a lecture situation.


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From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
keys
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700


Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet,
especially
compared with the Braille 'n Speak.
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the keys

I was curious. Several people on the list noted that the keys on
the Braille
Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys. Is the noise
level the
same on the Icon or is it quieter?


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