[icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing

Hi, Jenny. I hope I have remembered to inform the developers that it doesn't
matter whether my firewall is up or not. I am currently using Eset smart
security.
My folders and files aren't password protected. Vonnie's aren't either. This
is so we can pass files or folders between each other.
I am always telling her that there is a new version of winamp or some other
program that she and I both like using<grin>.


-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:37 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing

actually, to reply to my own message--forget about what I said about 
anonymous logons, as it probably doesn't apply, and doesn't really make 
sense the more I think about it.  Sorry, it is very very late, and my brain 
is very very scrambled, and I'm getting you confused with something else.
But I would ask two questions: Do you have more than 1 firewall running? 
And are your folders password protected?  I'm not saying I have any answers 
for you, just wondering a little more about the situation.

Jenny



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenny Axler" <jaxler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:10 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing


> Yes, we need to be familiar with how things work, and I hope, between APH 
> and LevelStar, between those of us who use Vista, and XP, that someone can

> find some answers for everyone.  And yes, we did know that this would be 
> complicated, and that we would need to do a lot to support it.  We have no

> problem with that.  I have been out of town the last couple of days, so am

> jus getting to all this email.  Yes, I probably should send a few file 
> sharing hints to the list, as I think there are some things that can be of

> value.  But, we won't document it.  The reason we won't is that it would 
> take an entire manual by itself.  And where do we stop?  There are 3 
> versions of XP, 5 versions of vista, and what about Mac users, and Linux 
> users?  Everything that can be documented on the Icon/Braille + side of it

> is documented, and there is also plenty of documentation about how to set 
> things up for each operating system on the various websites for those 
> OS's, but the rest, unfortunately, can be so individual to your specific 
> system, there's no way we could ever cover it all.  By the way, have you 
> looked at the Braille Note's documentation on Networking?  If you've set 
> it up, you must have.  What do you see in there about vista, XP, or 
> anything else for that matter?
>
> If we documented Microsoft, we'd appear to favor Microsoft, but eeven 
> taking on the task of covering all those OS's is an impossible one.  So, 
> we'll give you as much help as we can on list and through tech support, 
> but that's all we can do.  I do apologize that Michael and I implied that 
> Vista was not tested.  No one at LevelStar has a Vista machine, but 
> obviously, those at APH do, and did test it.
>
> As for it being as easy as it appears, it has been for some people, and if

> all goes well, it should go as I demoed it.  but I actually had my own 
> share of problemms setting things up, but they aren't necessarily the same

> ones others are having.  All we can do is try things, and if that doesn't 
> work, try something else.  That sounds very unorganized, and not very 
> knowledgeable, but I did my own bit of research on Microsoft.com with my 
> own troubles, and I discovered that there is such a wide range of issues 
> that can get in the way that, it's really all I know to say.  I hope that 
> someone is abel to help you get things resolved soon.  Only one more thing

> I can think to ask as far as my own knowledge goes.  Do you have more than

> 1 firewall running?  Sometimes if you're running both Norton and Windows 
> Firewalls, or any multiple firewalls that can cause a problem.  If worse 
> comes to worse, you may need to edit your registry to allow for annonymous

> log ons, but if that were the case, I wouldn't think your other machines 
> could gain access.
>
> Anyhow, we'll keep working on it.
> Jenny
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 PM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>
>> Hi, Jenny. Know that I am not upset any more today, and that I think very
>> highly of you and the levelstar and APH staff.
>> I have absolutely no regrets about buying this unit. I tell every blind
>> person I talk to about what a great unit it is and how far ahead of the
>> competition it is.
>> I just wanted to reply to your statements.
>> I am absolutely, positively sure this is braille plus and/or icon
>> related<grin>.
>> My wife and I checked out my network last evening from her computer. We 
>> can
>> share files between our two desktop computers as well as her laptops, 
>> which
>> are vista and xp. My daughter can use her laptop on our network when she
>> comes to visit us.
>> I can even set up sharing wirelessly with my computer on my braille note.
>> So everything from the computer side is correct.
>> I had typed the path in correctly to my music folder as well.
>> I have even set up a shortcut on my desktop which allows me to see all of
>> the shared folders on my braille plus and can transfer to and from those
>> folders.
>> I just can't set anything up on the braille plus side.
>> I understand that there is no documentation for setting up file sharing,
>> although I think there should have been at the time of release.
>> Perhaps it should have been a chapter in the manual just as would be for
>> using the other new features.
>> I also understand that you were just trying to show us the new features 
>> of
>> the 1.1 release; so your demonstration of file sharing was by no means
>> complete nor meant as a tutorial.
>> I also concede that at some future date, you will be creating tutorials 
>> for
>> all of the new features of this release.
>> But this is much more complicated than most of the other new features 
>> and,
>> therefore, much harder to comprehend and set up.
>> You must have guessed that users would find this much more difficult to 
>> set
>> up than moving contacts to another list, understanding the bookshelf or 
>> feed
>> folders or grasping the other new features.
>> You are going to have people contacting you for help setting up sharing 
>> on
>> both xp and vista.
>> I have seen people with xp on this list having trouble getting things to
>> work. This surprised me because in your demo, on your xp machine, it 
>> worked
>> so well.
>> My mistake was in thinking this would be as easy as you made it appear
>> during your demo.
>> And for that, I apologize.
>> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and transferring

>> at
>> 375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:36 PM
>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> While it is true that testing was not done with Vista, and maybe should 
>> have
>>
>> been, there is no documentation on how to set up with XP either other 
>> than
>> my podcast which, is more about demonstrating an example of how to access
>> shared files from the unit.  I did not go over how to set things up on 
>> the
>> PC side of things in XP or any other operating system.  If you check out
>> other PDA's that support netwowrking, you will find that the only
>> documentation provided is on the side of the PDA.  It is up to you to
>> research how to set things up on the computer side of things.  We cannot 
>> be
>> responsible for knowing the ins and outs of every operating system,
>> Microsoft or otherwise.  You might wish to check out Microsoft.com to 
>> look
>> through their knowledge base concerning troubleshooting network issues. 
>> i'd
>>
>> be curious, have you tried to access shared files on your vista PC from
>> another PC?  In other words, are you sure this is specifically Braille +
>> related?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM
>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>>
>>
>>>I am really upset.
>>> I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet.
>>> I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing.
>>> But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold.
>>> At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset.
>>> I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. 
>>> He's
>>> a
>>> pretty neat guy.
>>> But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file
>>> sharing
>>> and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account
>>> which
>>> did nothing to resolve the problem.
>>> Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind.
>>> Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the 
>>> development
>>> or
>>> beta teams thought to test the icon with vista?
>>> How can this be?
>>> Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it.
>>> Well, as of January 2009,  you won't be able to buy a computer with XP.
>>> One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program 
>>> and
>>> use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille 
>>> plus,
>>> or any other software for the computer or related to those devices..
>>> This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95
>>> or
>>> DOS.
>>> Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file
>>> sharing with xp as well as for vista.
>>> So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting.
>>> Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets 
>>> their
>>> hands on a vista machine and solves this problem.
>>> I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all 
>>> future
>>> releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista
>>> machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the
>>> current operating system.
>>>
>>> Paul Henrichsen
>>> <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
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