[ibis-macro] Minutes from the 12 dec 2006 ibis-atm meeting
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- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:50:56 -0500
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IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 12 Dec 2006 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. * Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group * Doug White, Cisco Systems * Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems * Ian Dodd, Mentor Graphics Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems * Kumar, Cadence Design Systems * Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems * Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft * Walter Katz, SiSoft Vuk Borich, Agilent Vikas Gupta, Xilinx ------------- Review of ARs: - Mike update macro library documentation Will do it this week - The modification of the API BIRD to accommodate the Pole-Zero approach will be tabled for now. We will attempt to go ahead with the time-domain proposal for now, then later on address modifications for the frequency-domain approaches. - Public domain HSpice syntax Todd has sent email to Synopsys, no response yet - Syntax proposal for parameter passing BIRDj No update from Arpad yet ------------- New Discussion: Todd gave a presentation describing serdes concepts and terminology: "Serial Link Analysis Terminology" for us to standardize on. Arpad: Is "Equalization" an appropriate term for the waveform processing done by the transmitter? Kumar: Good point, "filtering" may be more appropriate in this context Todd: No problem to change, just wanted to put a stake in the ground with this prez. Arpad: May want to include some feedback loop in the picture of the RX section All: Where should we delineate the RX? Where should the RX model boundaries be? Todd: Should there be any possibilities made for the RX to return data to the EDA tool? Todd: Is an API really necessary for the TX? Kumar: Didn't want to proscribe any implementation. In the case of certain optimization schemes, will need TX to be more algorithmic, so API probably necessary. Todd: IBIS presupposes some structure for a buffer. Do we need to do the same here? At least give it some structure, instead of trying for ultimate flexibility? - Init() call is processing impulse response. - GetWave() call is processing data stream. Walter: driver has no idea what the receiver is doing unless there is a back-channel. Mirmak: model makers will be using statistical analysis, not building a real-time functional model. Walter: Do we want the EDA tool to be handling the optimization, or the model? AR: Kumar will incorporate some of the terminology, as presented in the SiSoft presentation, into his API proposal, especially into the examples. Todd: Is IBM or TI or (??) willing to expose their parameters, or their filter, to the EDA tool? Would this be exposing too much of their secret sauce? Bob R.: It's not exactly clear to me where h(t) is in the presenation. Todd: h(t) is passive channel only. AR: Todd will send presentation out to group, and Mike L. will post on website. ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 19 Dec 2006 12:00pm PT
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