Bob --
The model maker knows. In this example he knows his training dwell is 2000
UI so he sets BXI_Message_interval_UI to something a bit larger, in this
case 2048 UI. Rationale for this was hopefully explained in the
accompanying Usage Notes.
Bob
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Bob Ross <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob M,
Looks good to me.
For BCI_Message_Interval_UI,
“The model maker/protocol designer should choose a value of
BCI_Message_Interval_UI that which is slightly larger than the smallest
number of training UI required per adaptation.”
and
*Example:*
(BCI_Message_Interval_UI(Usage Info) (Type Integer) (Value 2048)
(Description "Training requires at least 2000 UI per adaptation message”)
Is this correct?
How do we know that it is at least 2000 versus some other number?
Bob R
*From:* ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@
freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Miller (Redacted sender "bob.miller"
for DMARC)
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:48 PM
*To:* Bob Ross
*Cc:* dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Muranyi, Arpad; IBIS-ATM
*Subject:* [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for January
10, 2017
Comrades --
Her is a re-scrubbed draft of BRID147.5 which addresses BobR's items
above, as well as what ATM comments I could retain. I also cleaned up some
of the discussion around BCI_Training_UI and BCI_Message_Interval_UI (old
BCI_GetWave_Block_UI)
Changes are referred back to the final draft of 147.4 so we can see
everything we are fixing* in toto*.
Comments/corrections appreciated and will be worked on ASAP as received.
I'd like to have this ready to refer to the Open Forum by next ATM meeting,
if possible.
Regards,
Bob Miller
Broadcom, Ltd.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Bob Ross <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bob M,
Quick review:
Page 1 – keep October 18, 2011 date
Page 7 – BCI_Message_Interval_UI:
Descriptors: Type UI àType Integer
Example: (Type UI) à (Type Integer)
Page 8
Example: (Type UI) à (Type Integer)
Mike can fix the column widths of Table YY1
Bob R.
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freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob Miller (Redacted sender "bob.miller"
for DMARC)
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:51 AM
*To:* Muranyi, Arpad
*Cc:* ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for January
10, 2017
Hi all -
Attached is a draft revision of BIRD147.4 (tentatively updated to 147.5)
to address issues brought up just prior to the vote in the last IBIS Open
Forum:
Executive summary:
BIRD147.5 changes BCI_GetWave_Block_UI to BCI_Message_Interval_UI and the
Type of both it and BCI_Training_UI from UI to Integer. It softens the
linkage between it and the EDA-determined AMI_GetWave block_size while
retaining the intended primary purpose of providing a mechanism for the
model to inform the EDA tool of the optimal messaging interval to allow the
EDA tool to in turn manage the AMI_GetWave block_size to optimize the
required adaptation time.
Regards,
Bob
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Muranyi, Arpad <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Time: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at Noon US Pacific Time
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Agenda
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1) Opens
2) Roll call
3) Review of ARs:
Walter: email his example and BIRD 158.4 to the ATM list
Mike L: update the "IBIS 6.2 BIRD Candidates" to rev 7 and send it to the
ATM list
Any other AR-s?
4) Call for any IBIS related patent disclosures
5) Approval of minutes
6) BIRD147.4
- discussion
7) Review BIRD187.1 (All)
- discussion
8) BIRD158 (AMI Touchstone file (R) Analog Buffer Models)
- discussion
9) New BIRDs from Editorial Task Group? (Bob/Radek)
a. Specify buffer reference terminals for pins ([Pin Reference])
b. Simulation (aka DIA) vs. DUT (depends on #a)
c. C_comp and package reference in simulation clarifications
(depends on #a)
d. Make changes to the [Receiver Threshold], once a. and b. are
resolved
10) New Redriver flow BIRD (Walter, Fangyi)
- discussion
11) Buffer impedance / C_comp improvements (Randy)
- discussion
Tabled topics:
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12) How to handle missing min/max data? (Arpad)
- what should be the governing rule for synchronizing
typ/min/max data?
Pending BIRDs, expected to be rejected:
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125.1 Make IBIS-ISS Available for IBIS Package Modeling
128.2 Allow AMI_parameters_out to pass AMI_parameters_in data on calls to
AMI_GetWave
145.3 Cascading IBIS I/O buffers with [External Circuit]s using the
[Model Call] keyword
163 Instantiating and Connecting [External Circuit] Package Models with
[Circuit Call]
164 Allowing Package Models to be defined in [External Circuit]
Pending BIRDs, expected to be accepted (currently in discussion):
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147.4 Back-channel support
181.1 I/V Table Clarifications
184.2 Model_name and Signal_name Restriction for POWER and GND Pins
185.2 Section 3 Reserved Word Guideline Update
186 File Naming Rules
TBD New interconnect BIRD
TBD C_comp modeling with IBIS-ISS
Pending BIRDs awaiting discussion:
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158.3 AMI Touchstone file (R) Analog Buffer Models
161.1 Supporting Incomplete and Buffer-only [Component] Descriptions
165 Parameter Passing Improvements for [External Circuit]s
166 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow
Thanks,
Arpad
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