====================================================================== IBIS INTERCONNECT TASK GROUP MEETING MINUTES AND AGENDA http://www.eda.org/ibis/interconnect_wip/ (note new URL) Mailing list: ibis-interconn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Archives at //www.freelists.org/archive/ibis-interconn/ ====================================================================== Next Meeting Wednesday, March 23, 2011 9 AM US Pacific Time Telephone Bridge Passcode 916-356-2663 5 369-9008 (for international and alternate US numbers, contact Michael Mirmak) LiveMeeting: https://webjoin.intel.com/?passcode=3699008 Agenda: - Attendees - Call for patents - Review of Minutes * March 16, 2011 - Opens - IBIS-ISS Comments Review (continued) - Agenda for Next Meeting - Approve Next Meeting Dates: * March 30 * April 6 ====================================================================== Attendees: ---------- (* denotes present) Agilent - Radek Biernacki* Ansoft - Denis Soldo Cadence Design Systems - Terry Jernberg, Brad Griffin, Dennis Nagle*, Taranjit Kukal Cisco Systems - Mike LaBonte IBM - Greg Edlund ICT-Lanto - Steven Wong Intel - Michael Mirmak* Mentor Graphics Corp. - John Angulo*, Arpad Muranyi* Micron Technology - Justin Butterfield*, Randy Wolff* Sigrity - Brad Brim SiSoft - Walter Katz* Teraspeed Consulting Group - Bob Ross* ======================================================================== No patents were declared. During opens, Michael Mirmak mentioned that representatives of the Compact Modeling Council (CMC) had received the IBIS-ISS specification and were reviewing it. They have a separate language proposal for a generic SPICE, though they will be willing to point to IBIS-ISS as an independent format. Bob Ross suggested that IBIS continue pursuing IBIS-ISS as-is, rather than attempt to incorporate elements of the CMC proposal. The approval schedule for CMC's language is not known. Michael Mirmak presented the comments received from several reviewers on the IBIS-ISS draft submitted to the IBIS Open Forum. In response to an Intel engineering comment, Bob and Walter Katz both agreed that IF/ENDIF not be supported. Arpad noted that the ternary operator is supported by IBIS-ISS, which will evaluate to true or false similar to IF/ENDIF. Walter asked whether this should be removed. Arpad suggested that ternary operators be left alone, but not extended to IF/ENDIF. Also in response to an Intel engineering comment, Walter noted that single and double quotes are often changed to extended ASCII characters by modern editors. The specification document itself should be scrubbed to use only "keyboard ASCII" characters and, if possible, the specification should specifically mention which ASCII characters are prohibited. In response to the final Intel comment, further research is needed to distinguish pre-defined analysis functions from user-defined functions. In addition, the "=" sign may involve quotation marks not noted in the specification. A rule appears to be missing regarding the phrase "two deep" in the document. As part of his comments, Radek Biernacki pointed out that Table 3 rules are not universally applied in the document. In particular, the phrase "alphanumeric" is used in reference to nodes, etc., where characters aside from alphanumeric ones are permitted. Section 4.2 should be edited, in the parenthetical note, that "combination" should be "ended by a line-termination sequence." A spreadsheet for tracking comments has been produced and distributed. The next few meetings will be devoted to disposition of the comments. AR: Michael Mirmak to update spreadsheet to include Radek Biernacki's additional comments - DONE