[huskerlug] Re: DenverPost.com - "Hi, I'm a Mac. I am way cool."
- From: Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 07:30:07 -0600
Here is another article about Apple in the computer business.
<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2072141,00.asp>
As Greygeek pointed out, Apples are more expensive. However,
they are usually much better built than their PC counter-parts. I would
dislike not being able to run any peripherals that I wanted to. Many
times with Linux you have to pick the peripherals to run with it. I have
some things that will only work with Windows, and I'm not giving them up
to just snub M$, much as I like doing that. ;-)
I am irked that I can't run my old Mustek 600 EP+ scanner in Linux
even though I'm suppose to be able to do that. Now that does bug me. ---Jim
Charles Leslie wrote:
> Thanks for pointing that out to me again. That was an excellent
> article. It helps to keep in mind the underlying potential evils of
> supporting a personality like the Apple/Steve Jobs entity.
>
> On the other hand, the OS X fonts are so delicious that going back to
> other desktops are almost hard on the eyes. Now that the hardware/OS
> problems with Macs are handled... I finally understand the appeal.
>
> On 12/26/06, Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I would suggest you read the Apple section of this article mentioned
>> by two of us:
>>
>> <http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html#id247970>
>>
>> Steve Jobs has other interests besides overwhelming the computer
>> market. ---Jim
>>
>> Charles Leslie wrote:
>>> Being a gizmo fanatic, I broke down and bought a new MacBook Core 2
>>> Duo last week... and wow...
>>>
>>> The Mac on Intel hardware is going to be a serious force to be
>>> reckoned with. It does exactly what Linux distros have been wishing
>>> they can do. It provides end users with a simple, slick, and gorgeous
>>> interface that is so simple and functional, anyone could use... but if
>>> you look under the hood, provides geeks with pure Unix bliss, now with
>>> the Standardized PC hardware they crave to develop on.. It's like a
>>> bombshell blonde just walked into the room, and everyone is invited to
>>> come and get her.
>>>
>>> My MacBook experience was like this...
>>>
>>> Unbox MacBook, plug stuff in...
>>>
>>> 5 minutes, up and running. All of my hardware just works, including
>>> USB peripherals, wireless internet, external sound card, printer, and
>>> digital camera... no configuration needed, no drivers needed... no
>>> software even needed to use them. I've never experienced anything
>>> like it.
>>>
>>> 30 minutes marveling at OS X, and all the default Apple software
>>> installed, half of which I deemed useless and promptly removed to save
>>> disk space. :)
>>>
>>> 2 hrs... I installed the dev tools, GNU compiler, and have been
>>> playing with "Linux" apps on it. Using the Fink project...
>>> http://www.finkproject.org/ It's quite fantastic really. I've even
>>> got X running on it. Other than flashy DirectX only games, it easily
>>> runs most apps from the Mac, Unix, and Windows world with ease.
>>>
>>> To say that I'm highly impressed, doesn't even cut it. I used to
>>> think people who bought Macs were either idiots, or artsy fartsy
>>> graphics designers. Times have changed.
>>>
>>> On 12/25/06, Patrick <pberry26@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> For the past 9 months, I have serviced and repaired
>>>> Macs in a franchised independant shop that also has a
>>>> PC business co-located in the strip mall.
>>>>
>>>> The folks who come in the door seem to all know that
>>>> there are three OSes out there, competing for the
>>>> desktop.
>>>> 1. Microsoft Windows that has problems with security,
>>>> needs strange drivers installed.
>>>> 2. Macintosh OS X, that just seems to run, but, after
>>>> a few weeks slows down, drops to the "BSD shell".
>>>> 3. The "thingy my friend runs, Linux, but, he's a
>>>> geek".
>>>>
>>>> They could care less, and would continue to pay either
>>>> the average cost of $135 per PC to clean it of virus
>>>> problems, plus, purchase "Commander" AV.
>>>>
>>>> Or, in the case of Mac users, pay $89 for Alsoft Disk
>>>> Warrior, plus, the mandatory clean up of the kluged
>>>> Mac hfs+ filesystem for a typical total cost of $145.
>>>>
>>>> If we can get Linux to rule the X86-64 world, get some
>>>> codecs going for 3d and drivers, we might have a
>>>> chance.
>>>>
>>>> If we can get "in" with QuantaComputers, who makes 50%
>>>> of ALL Laptops on the planet, who makes the "$100
>>>> Linux laptop Project", we might have a chance at the
>>>> market in 2008.
>>>>
>>>> Most computer users aren't stupid, just ignorant, and
>>>> have little spare time to study, learn, all the
>>>> technical stuff needed for most GNU/Linux to run DVD
>>>> play and some of the work arounds for proprietary
>>>> media formats.
>>>>
>>>> Freespire actually won (in the court case against
>>>> Microsoft, for their trademark) the right to "the
>>>> Codecs". Better choice than the Ubuntu one, of
>>>> repositories off shore, which they cannot mention, and
>>>> you must discover on your own.
>>>>
>>>> Such obscurity does keep the community from full
>>>> growth. And, many of us do harbor (justified?)
>>>> feelings of superiority over the common computer
>>>> 'luser', after having worked (and sacrificed!) to
>>>> attain competency at GNU/Linux!
>>>>
>>>> I dread Mac ever gaining control of the 64 bit market!
>>>> I believe Microsfot can't respond to the market in
>>>> time to actually present a viable 64 bit OS.
>>>>
>>>> GNU/Linux has been proven in the 64bit arena since
>>>> 1995, but, with few desktop, 3d, video codecs
>>>> available, as it was mostly in the server area that
>>>> GNU/Linux rules!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html#id247970
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unless things have changed the majority of servers
>>>>> were run on one of the
>>>>> variety of BSD's, probably FreeBSD. If I hadn't got
>>>>> a segmentation fault :'(
>>>>> when running DesktopBSD on one my slices on a
>>>>> computer it would have been there
>>>>> rather than PCLinuxOS. I think Mac users don't give
>>>>> too much thought to their
>>>>> operating system since it just works, and works
>>>>> well. The ones I talked to, are
>>>>> ticked off that Apple went from Motorola processors
>>>>> to Intel types which gave
>>>>> Macs an added uniqueness. By the way, Macs didn't
>>>>> have trouble with number
>>>>> crunching, and Apple did have a very strong grip on
>>>>> graphics end of computing.
>>>>> Pascal, still looks like a more sensible way to
>>>>> program than and type of C,
>>>>> C++, C#, etc. They're are other programming
>>>>> languages out there. ;-) Merry
>>>>> Christmas and Happy New Year. ---Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> GreyGeek wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.denverpost.com/quillen/ci_4862407
>>>>>>
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