[huskerlug] Re: Backups

Again though...  we don't know if we're talking about servers or 
end-user machines...  If we're talking servers, then yes it's a 
problem...  Talking about end user machines, then not so big...  I've 
managed to crash Mandrake 2-3 times in the last 3 months!
On 7/24/2003 10:53 PM, GrayGeek wrote:

>On Thursday 24 July 2003 10:43 pm, you wrote:
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>>Okay...  that site is VERY messed up...  That 24 hours thing was
>>something I thought is what they were using for a unit of time
>>based on another page within that site, but I was wrong...  That
>>number of crashes could be based over any unit of time (including
>>years)...  If we're talking 20 crashes per machine over 2 years or
>>more, thwn what's the big deal?
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>No big deal....if your PC isn't controlling the rudder of your Missle=20
>Cruiser or the fire control mechanism of your Phalanx defense gatlin,=20
>or the auto pilot of your airplane, or the heart monitor connected to=20
>your chest, or the security door of your workplace, ... (You did hear=20
>about the warship that had to be towed back to port after the ALL the=20
>NTs in their server farm, the one controllin guidance & navigation=20
>failed, and their on board techies couldn't get them rebooted?)
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>>On 7/24/2003 10:33 PM, GrayGeek wrote:
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>>>On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:07 pm, you wrote:
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>>>>Not to try to start anything, but that bugtoaster site doesn't
>>>>say much...  It says Windows boxes have crashes, but that's
>>>>it... I think everybody and their dog knows that.  It doesn't
>>>>say what the computers are doing when they crash, or anything
>>>>else related.  I think the average of 15-21 crashes per box in a
>>>>24 hour period is a
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>>>>
>>>Where did you read '24 hours' into those figures?
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>>>>bit high... I've never seen a computer (let alone an average)
>>>>showing that a computer crashes once an hour.
>>>>Also...  this story about harddrives running MS systems dying is
>>>>something I'd like to see... I can't say I've ever heard of a
>>>>difference in harddrive wear between Windows/Linux.
>>>>
>>>>Ryan
>>>>
>>>>On 7/24/2003 7:54 PM, Patrick wrote:
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>>>>>Thanks!  I think...?
>>>>>
>>>>>--- GrayGeek <jkreps@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>>>On Thursday 24 July 2003 03:01 pm, you wrote:
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>>>>>>>These are folks who work very hard to pay for
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>hardware, and questions about them tossing all
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>MS licenses in the trash are not waht we want
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>bandied
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>about...
>>>>>>>We want them to make clear decisions based upon
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>some
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
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>>>>>>>credible equipment records, facts.  It is too easy
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>collect all the news clippings, into a large pile,
>>>>>>>that support the overall security of one OS over
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
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>>>>>>>other 140+ that have proven stable a lot longer...
>>>>>>>They are seeking actual equipment longevity
>>>>>>>statistics.
>>>>>>>based upon a large base of use.
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>OK.  Facts.
>>>>>>Compare the #computers vs #crashes for the various
>>>>>>M$ platforms at=3D3D20
>>>>>>this WINDOWS website.
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>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.bugtoaster.com/dw15/Reports/OperatingSystems.asp
>>>>>
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>>>>>>You will see that the average per unit of time is
>>>>>>about 18 +-3 per=3D3D20
>>>>>>box.
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>>>>>=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>Patrick
>>>>>Linux User #65411 http://lugww.counter.li.org
>>>>>http://yolinux.com for all your questions!
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