[huskerlug] Re: Backups

These are folks who work very hard to pay for their
hardware, and questions about them tossing all their
MS licenses in the trash are not waht we want bandied
about...
We want them to make clear decisions based upon some
credible equipment records, facts.  It is too easy to
collect all the news clippings, into a large pile,
that support the overall security of one OS over the
other 140+ that have proven stable a lot longer...
They are seeking actual equipment longevity
statistics.
based upon a large base of use.
--- Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>       Oh, everyone with a Microsoft system including 2000
> the new one,
> etc. had better go to the Microsoft patch website
> and get it patch 
> that means Windows ME and 98 also.
>       The BBC again had a big article on that on their
> front page, about
> buggy Microsoft, but now they moved  to their
> technology section.   
> Show people that!   ---Jim
> 
> 
> On Thursday 24 July 2003 09:57, you wrote:
> > I wouldn't talk Microsoft here, except that it is
> a
> > fact of life that everyone we advocate Open Source
> to,
> > including College Boards (who tax all of us, with
> a
> > Microsoft tax!) thinks that it is the only OS that
> > exists!
> >
> > As advocates of Open Source, we cannot afford to
> be
> > incorrect, and want to advocate GNU/Linux choices
> > foremost.  But, there are some areas, some
> > applications, not yet fully fulfilled by any
> GNU/Linux
> > application.  Happily, this is being rectified at
> the
> > rate of over several dozen new applications each
> day
> > at http://sourceforge.net.
> >
> > I cite my hardware on MS OSes
> > unreliability/destruction vs. Open Source
> > stability/reliability, as one of the major
> problems
> > that is seldom addressed in any literature, and I
> seek
> > some credible statistics of hardware reliability
> to
> > back up my own experiences.
> >
> > I predict that the TOC (Total Ownership Cost)
> debate,
> > that was warped by MS into some kind of
> double-speak
> > for their marketing effort, will be replaced by a
> > genuine and unshakable dissertation on the
> unreliable
> > aspects their OSes introduce in the most stable
> > hardware platforms/processors/storage devices.
> >
> > This argument is a very on-topic one, concerning
> where
> > the world spends it's money on the IT
> infrastucture!
> >
> >  --- Gary Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I seem to have had much better luck with ME than
> > > most people. Perhaps it's =
> > > because I try not to trust the OS as much as
> > > possible. I don't use "FindFas=
> > > t" and disable the "extras" and "helpful" parts
> of
> > > all the MS products that=
> > >  I can find. I have had one hard drive failure
> in
> > > the four years that I've =
> > > owned the computer
> >
> > OK, so Microsoft OS comes with certain 'defaults'
> in
> > place, that destroy equipment within 3-4 months!
> >
> > The installer/user must track down, at great
> expense
> > in time/resources, all the default problems and
> repair
> > them!?
> >
> > > I'm using Word 2000 as part of the Works program
> > > that came with the compute=
> > > r. I plan to uninstall it and use Open Office as
> > > soon as I finish a book pr=
> > > oject. I used to like the old MS Works 4 program
> > > before it had been complet=
> > > ely Micro$ofted. I still use an old copy of
> > > Publisher 97 for the same reaso=
> > > n. M$ adds all the "Helpful" crap like "Clippie"
> and
> > > tons of other junk and=
> > >  hides all the settings and other things you can
> use
> > > to create a useful env=
> > > ironment from the junk they set you up with.
> >
> > Who 'owns' your data?  If you have to convert,
> then
> > you are serving a master who cares nothing about
> your
> > work!
> >
> > The thrashing of my drives, when using any of the
> > stolen code that MS has re-mal-formed to be their
> > non-standards compliant word processor(s), is not
> > something I will tolerate, nor, will my clients.
> >
> > > I hate all the bloat, and that seems to have
> become
> > > the pardigm for the who=
> > > le Window$ world. I just had another program
> that I
> > > used to like, update it=
> > > self almost to the point of unusability.
> > > Unfortunately I converted my data =
> > > before I found out about the problems. Live and
> > > learn.
> >
> > If a 'standard' is complied with, in any
> application,
> > then no data should ever have to be converted!
> >
> > > I have a number of graphics programs that work
> only
> > > under Windows or I'd be=
> > >  using Linux right now. Gimp does a lot of what
> I
> > > need, but not everything,=
> > >  so I'm stuck with M$ for a few more months
> while I
> > > investigate alternative=
> > > s.
> >
> > Try http://sourceforge.net and click on the
> 'software
> > map' header to open up all the catagories of
> > applications and programs available.
> >
> > Who uses GNU/Linux?  You can now add the 'Gnomes
> of
> > Munich'
> >
>
http://linux.bryanconsulting.com/stories/storyReader$45
> >
> > > > All machinery breaks eventually.  I have over
> 25
> > > > systems here. Two run winME.  Guess which ones
> > >
> > > break
> > >
> > > > most often?  I mean that the hard drives
> crash,
> > >
> > > loose
> > >
> > > > sectors, start to constantly seek, with that
> > >
> > > clacking
> > >
> > > > sound, etc.  Only the Microsoft ones!  Even on
> the
> > > > dual boot machines, with identical models of
> > >
> > > drives in
> > >
> > > > hdc: (Open Source) and C: (MS)!
> >
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