[huskerlug] Re: Backups
- From: "Gary Kearney" <gkearney@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "HLUG Husker Linux Users Group" <huskerlug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:50:07 -0500
I seem to have had much better luck with ME than most people. Perhaps it's =
because I try not to trust the OS as much as possible. I don't use "FindFas=
t" and disable the "extras" and "helpful" parts of all the MS products that=
I can find. I have had one hard drive failure in the four years that I've =
owned the computer.
I'm using Word 2000 as part of the Works program that came with the compute=
r. I plan to uninstall it and use Open Office as soon as I finish a book pr=
oject. I used to like the old MS Works 4 program before it had been complet=
ely Micro$ofted. I still use an old copy of Publisher 97 for the same reaso=
n. M$ adds all the "Helpful" crap like "Clippie" and tons of other junk and=
hides all the settings and other things you can use to create a useful env=
ironment from the junk they set you up with.
I hate all the bloat, and that seems to have become the pardigm for the who=
le Window$ world. I just had another program that I used to like, update it=
self almost to the point of unusability. Unfortunately I converted my data =
before I found out about the problems. Live and learn.
I have a number of graphics programs that work only under Windows or I'd be=
using Linux right now. Gimp does a lot of what I need, but not everything,=
so I'm stuck with M$ for a few more months while I investigate alternative=
s.
> All machinery breaks eventually. I have over 25
> systems here. Two run winME. Guess which ones break
> most often? I mean that the hard drives crash, loose
> sectors, start to constantly seek, with that clacking
> sound, etc. Only the Microsoft ones! Even on the
> dual boot machines, with identical models of drives in
> hdc: (Open Source) and C: (MS)!
>
> The two dedicated winME systems are an AOpen P166,
> (free, from the rental store, when they dumped 500 of
> them on the local LUG, http://leap-cf.org in Central
> Florida), and, an Athlon 1.4Ghz for compatibility
> testing. I have the same make/models of hard drives
> in many of the other systems, running various versions
> of BSD, and about a dozen distros of GNU/Linux.
>
> The Athlon 1.4Ghz unit has a removable hard drive.
> Those ATA100/133 drive bays, with included fan, seem
> to work well, and sell around $10.00. Cheap
> insurance, as we put all the data files on them. The
> installed, first, hard drive holds the Microsoft OS,
> and it's system files, and tends to loose it all every
> 3-4 months, in every MS OS computer of my acquaintance
> .
>
> The other hard drives that failed in systems here was
> the second drive on a dual boot Celeron 600 machine,
> and that second drive had win98 (for dual boot) on
> it... and, about 6 others, in my group of friends, and
> family. All that failed ran Microsoft OS!
>
> I contend that there is something that thrashes drives
> in Microsoft products, and suspect it includes
> "findfast" and perhaps some other programs...
>
> When we talk stability, in Linux, I am seeing it,
> since I have been running multiple computers with the
> all the above cited operating systems for the past 6.5
> years...
> I do also, run the Open Source OS on the first drive,
> usually a 1 GB to 10 GB drive, storing and using all
> other files on a 6GB to 120 GB second hard drive.
>
> I have been designing, building, and maintaining
> computer systems since 1965. I was in electronics
> systems maintenance in the Air Force 1965-1985. I am
> no stranger to long term reliability testing. After
> the past 6.5 years of experience, I trust Open Source
> OSes, like BSD and GNU/Linux.
>
> I run 'anything' Microsoft as little as possible, not
> just because it is closed, and has multiple
> vulnerabilities, and, it has many 'back-doors' open to
> crackers, but, now, I am sure of the fact that
> Microsoft code thrashes equipment severly.
>
> I tweak and update the Microsoft systems, daily, (what
> a waste of my time!). I cannot afford to replace all
> my hard drives every year!
>
> I also have burned coasters ONLY in Microsoft, while
> even the cheapest blank CD-r's seem to work well in
> GNU/Linux, (haven't tested BSD) with cdrecord.
>
> Question: Has anyone seen any long term hardware
> failure reports due to Microsoft OS, vs. Open Source
> OS? I would like to see the maintenance records of
> Hotmail (Linux/ BSD on 6 to 8 thousand servers) vs.
> MSN on MS IIS OS.
>
> My clients trust me a lot, but, solid documentation of
> my theories, supported by third party results, does
> add to the credibility of my claims!
>
>
> --- Jim Worrest <jworrest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > You need to use Nero for Windows and Amanda for
> > Unix for backing
> > up, the latter may be used on your Windows files
> > from Linux, I'm not sure
> > about that, there's even some stuff in KDE you could
> > use, but I haven't back
> > up anything for months --- I'll regret it! ---Jim
>
>
>
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> Patrick
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