[HFbeacons] Re: Beacons 30 March 2012

  • From: n4vbv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: hfbeacons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:29:42 +0000

Ron,

  You can also consult the online ARRL Technical Information Service if you 
haven't already done so. And the folks at the TIS are really helpful if you 
email them about the problem ("tis@xxxxxxxx" unless it's been changed 
recently). Like Bill mentioned - if your signal is getting into the cable, then 
theirs is getting out of the cable. And since their signals can interfere with 
aircraft navigation, they might want to be careful about calling the FCC. Is 
the interference also in your house and electronics? If you have no 
interference and you have the beacon at your home, it might not be your beacon 
causing the problems. 

  If anyone near you (or a library) has a copy of the ARRL RFI book, this could 
also be helpful. You can also search online for a copy. It specifically 
addresses cable TV interference in Chapter 7 (at least in the 2nd edition). And 
there's always the possibility that your signals are getting into your 
neighbor's homes through a problem in the cable TV equipment.

  If you've had no complaints until recently and haven't made any changes (and 
all connections, etc. check good), it doesn't sound like it's your system. Of 
course all electronic equipment can have a bad component, so you might want to 
try monitoring your beacon signal on a nearby radio for any emissions in the 
10m band near your beacon's freq or harmonics. 

  And you can call the cable company's plant manager or chief 
engineer/technician. They are probably more experienced than most of the crews 
out on the road, and may have heard of a similar problem/solution before yours 
occurred. Being nice doesn't hurt, they do have some nice folks that are 
willing to work with people, especially if you have lots of evidence/data about 
when you were operating, whether you also have the interference in your home or 
not, and if you have any info about possible interference from their system. 
Listen to the 108-136 band (AM) for any interference. That's the aircraft band, 
but if you're close to an airport or navigation aid you might hear them. And 
some of the cable leakage may be from poorly shielded TV's, VCRs, or FM tuners. 
Anybody nearby purchase a new piece of equipment about the time your 
interference complaints started?

  I did have great luck with the power company engineer in my Mom's town when 
she had bad power line interference. They traced the problem to some bad 
hardware and were able to schedule the repairs instead of having an unplanned 
outage (that made the line crew happy). The engineer even kept me updated via 
email and was really nice to work with. I know it's a different utility, be 
still had to deal with people. I did pass on the details/solution to the ARRL 
RFI folks. 

  Some cable systems have Channel 2 on approx 55-59 MHz (about 28 MHz X 2) and 
Channel D and E on roughly 139-149 MHz (I combined audio and video freqs). This 
is approx 28 MHz X 5 or 6. 

  Ok, you asked me what time it was and I built a watch. Sorry for the 
verbosity, but hope it helps keep you on the air. 

  Best of luck with the problem, and let us all know how it goes,

Mike, N4VBV
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From: ron <k4jee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:11:30 
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Subject: [HFbeacons] Re: Beacons 30 March 2012

Hello Bill
 Well I have a problem here.It might be with my beacon.But I'm not sure yet. I 
cut the beacon power back from 25 watts to 5 watts now to see If the problem is 
still there.If It Is I will take the beacon off the air until I can figure out 
whats going on.I have a Ham friend that works for the cable company here. He 
had a tech come to him and asked him if he new a ham that lived on my street. I 
was told I'm getting in TV's,telephones and all there electronic devices in 
there homes and there are 3 different homes this is happening to.My wife one 
day had a knock on the door and they asked if they could talk to me and she 
told them I was at work.Than he told her the interference is going on now.So 
the only thing it could be is the beacon.The cable tech said that he is seeing 
a spike on his spectrum analizer.Oh well I'll keep you posted .No neighbors 
have come to me yet but I was told the tech told my neighbors that nothing was 
wrong at there homes and said
 they might want to write the FCC.
                        Take Care 
                                   Ron
                                        K4JEE

--- On Fri, 3/30/12, WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [HFbeacons] Beacons 30 March 2012
To: hfbeacons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 10mprop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 4:35 PM





  
  


 Good Afternoon All,



Second day in a row that I can call hectic......Thunderstorms in the
area ..On and off light rain now the weather alert radio sounding off
with a severe storm in my county..... A bit dis-disgruntled with my ISP
switch to fiber optics...... Un suspected by the technician as they
buried the cable a control line for my yard sprinklers was
cut.......Also, the buried power line to my lawn equipment storage
garage  severed....... My time at the radio has been limited and the
beacon has been un-plugged most of the day because of the storms.



13:43 Z, 30 March 2012 NO ten meter beacon signals heard into EM71.



16:17 Z, 30 March 2012 I can hear 7 ten meter beacon signals into EM71.



28.197   VE7MTY     PITT MEADOWS, BC              3605 km 2240 miles

28.2035  PY2WFG     IPIRANGA, BRAZIL              5940 km 3691 miles

28.2045  W6CF       SAN FRANCISCO, CA             3375 km 2097 miles

28.2085  NB7A       RENO, NEVADA                  3160 km 1963 miles

28.2313  KE6TE      ELK GROVE, CALIFORNIA         3285 km 2041 miles

28.250   K6FRC/2    SUTTERS MOUNTAIN, CALIFORNIA  3233 km 2009 miles

28.300   K6FRC      TRACY, CALIFORNIA             3233 km 2009 miles



20:09 Z, 30 March 2012 I can hear 13 ten meter beacon signals into EM71.



28.177   HP1RCP     PANAMA CITY, PANAMA           2620 km 1628 miles

28.2035  PY2WFG     IPIRANGA, BRAZIL              5940 km 3691 miles

28.2118  AC7GZ      CHANDLER, ARIZONA             2426 km 1508 miles

28.2165  N7MA       CATALDO, IDAHO                3113 km 1934 miles

28.2313  KE6TE      ELK GROVE, CALIFORNIA         3285 km 2041 miles

28.2315  NP4LW      SAN SABASTIAN, PUERTO RICO    2419 km 1503 miles

28.250   K6FRC/2    SUTTERS MOUNTAIN, CALIFORNIA  3233 km 2009 miles

28.250   K7EK       GRAHAM, WASHINGTON            3510 km 2181 miles

28.250   K8NDB      YUMA, ARIZONA                 2688 km 1670 miles 

28.288   WA7LNW     HURRICANE MESA UTAH           2551 km 1585 miles 



28.2942  K7RQN      PEORIA, ARIZONA               2459 km 1528 miles

28.296   KA7BGR     CENTRAL POINT, OREGON         3450 km 2144 miles 

28.300   K6FRC      TRACY, CALIFORNIA             3233 km 2009 miles

 

73 Bill WJ5O

Southern Alabama





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